Re: [Pharo-project] Re: [ANN] Demo with both Truetype + Polymorph
Igor, Ah, but you miss the point, wise and kind sir :) Dumbing down users makes them less able to pirate software. That aside, assuming I unzip the files into a folder of my chosing[*] and run Pharo.exe, what should happen? I will unzip it elsewhere to see what I find. One of my attempts lead to "file not found." It looks too correct to be corrupt download, so I'm thinking MS is tripping up over file names. Bill [*] Seriously, each update cycle, this particular XP box gets weirder and weirder. Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 273-6785 FAX: (352) 392-7029
siguctua@gmail.com 9/22/2008 12:28:05 PM >>> 2008/9/22 Bill Schwab <BSchwab@anest.ufl.edu>: I appeared to get a valid download, but something isn't right. Is the idea to download, unzip (MS seems to make this flakier with every update???), and then launch Pharo.exe? Are there separate image and change files? I do not see them, just a LOT of folders/files that are giving my Java flashbacks.
MS people invented term of 'installing software' , while in most cases it can be done by simply copying files. And one of the results of such 'invention' that now people simply can't make simplest things like unpacking acrhive to choosen folder and run the program by themselves - they think in a terms of 'icon on desktop' or 'icon in the launch menu'.. A progress. What i can say.
From this POV, the distribution is still far away from the 'one-click', because , in my vision, a single click should be in browser, and after this click you should have everything up and running on your PC. :)
My assumption was that this is a prepared image with Polymorph and TT loaded, and on seeing the structure, I figured it was a Sophie-like distribution. Are my expectations skewed? Please let me know if I am missing something. Otherwise, I will try this again later.
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 273-6785 FAX: (352) 392-7029
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Bill, I'm on XP and I haven't had any issues with one-click images. Put it anywhere and run Pharo.exe. But, I've been a big fan of Sophie-based one-clicks. Both my son's have Ubuntu and I can take my one-click on a USB key and work from there. Also great for user group meetings! --David On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Bill Schwab <BSchwab@anest.ufl.edu> wrote:
Igor,
Ah, but you miss the point, wise and kind sir :) Dumbing down users makes them less able to pirate software.
That aside, assuming I unzip the files into a folder of my chosing[*] and run Pharo.exe, what should happen? I will unzip it elsewhere to see what I find. One of my attempts lead to "file not found." It looks too correct to be corrupt download, so I'm thinking MS is tripping up over file names.
Bill
[*] Seriously, each update cycle, this particular XP box gets weirder and weirder.
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 273-6785 FAX: (352) 392-7029
siguctua@gmail.com 9/22/2008 12:28:05 PM >>> 2008/9/22 Bill Schwab <BSchwab@anest.ufl.edu>: I appeared to get a valid download, but something isn't right. Is the idea to download, unzip (MS seems to make this flakier with every update???), and then launch Pharo.exe? Are there separate image and change files? I do not see them, just a LOT of folders/files that are giving my Java flashbacks.
MS people invented term of 'installing software' , while in most cases it can be done by simply copying files. And one of the results of such 'invention' that now people simply can't make simplest things like unpacking acrhive to choosen folder and run the program by themselves - they think in a terms of 'icon on desktop' or 'icon in the launch menu'.. A progress. What i can say.
From this POV, the distribution is still far away from the 'one-click', because , in my vision, a single click should be in browser, and after this click you should have everything up and running on your PC. :)
My assumption was that this is a prepared image with Polymorph and TT loaded, and on seeing the structure, I figured it was a Sophie-like distribution. Are my expectations skewed? Please let me know if I am missing something. Otherwise, I will try this again later.
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 273-6785 FAX: (352) 392-7029
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2008/9/22 Bill Schwab <BSchwab@anest.ufl.edu>:
Igor,
Ah, but you miss the point, wise and kind sir :) Dumbing down users makes them less able to pirate software.
yeah, yeah.. "don't copy that floppy". Maybe i have a bad morale, but i'm still finding it really weird, why one should feel sin by making a copy. He should feel sin, when he using the software with no legal right of using it. But declaring making a copy is illegal is something completely different.
That aside, assuming I unzip the files into a folder of my chosing[*] and run Pharo.exe, what should happen? I will unzip it elsewhere to see what I find. One of my attempts lead to "file not found." It looks too correct to be corrupt download, so I'm thinking MS is tripping up over file names.
maybe you have a kind of anti-virus, which checks downloads (even zipped ones) and tripping files from it? :) The progress demands from the software to be more and more clever nowadays :)
Bill
[*] Seriously, each update cycle, this particular XP box gets weirder and weirder.
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 273-6785 FAX: (352) 392-7029
siguctua@gmail.com 9/22/2008 12:28:05 PM >>> 2008/9/22 Bill Schwab <BSchwab@anest.ufl.edu>: I appeared to get a valid download, but something isn't right. Is the idea to download, unzip (MS seems to make this flakier with every update???), and then launch Pharo.exe? Are there separate image and change files? I do not see them, just a LOT of folders/files that are giving my Java flashbacks.
MS people invented term of 'installing software' , while in most cases it can be done by simply copying files. And one of the results of such 'invention' that now people simply can't make simplest things like unpacking acrhive to choosen folder and run the program by themselves - they think in a terms of 'icon on desktop' or 'icon in the launch menu'.. A progress. What i can say.
From this POV, the distribution is still far away from the 'one-click', because , in my vision, a single click should be in browser, and after this click you should have everything up and running on your PC. :)
My assumption was that this is a prepared image with Polymorph and TT loaded, and on seeing the structure, I figured it was a Sophie-like distribution. Are my expectations skewed? Please let me know if I am missing something. Otherwise, I will try this again later.
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 273-6785 FAX: (352) 392-7029
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