Ubuntu fullscreen problems
Hi everybody, I just upgraded to Ubuntu 15.10 and am using Unity User Interface. I want Pharo to use the full screen (i.e., above the menu bar and launcher). Inside Pharo, I can choose "Toggle full screen mode". This works to some extent but has some problems: (1) I can no longer switch applications or desktops (i.e., pager). So it stops me doing work where I move between Pharo and a browser. This may be expected functionality. (2) More problematically, when I try to switch out of full screen mode by choosing "Toggle full screen mode", the Pharo interface completely disappears (just a giant gray area) and no mouse or keyboard events seem to register. I have to use command line to kill it. In good news, I can use "save and quit" instead and relaunching it just has it in maximum mode (full screen but launcher and menu bar are visible). I can then toggle full screen mode twice to get back to full screen. I searched for this on FogBugz but found nothing. Is there a workaround? This seems like a VM issue. Is there a newer VM that fixes this? I just used the most recent one on the Pharo 4.0 download page. If nobody has a fix, I'll open a case on FogBugz. This isn't a large problem but it would be nice to have this Cheers, Jeff
I think there must be some incompatibility between Pharo and the host window manager/desktop environment. On Debian/dwm (I am using Ubuntu VM) I can reproduce (1), but not (2). There is however interesting behavior... if I try to switch desktop while in fullscreen it doesn't switch, however once I switch back to non-fullscreen, suddenly I jump to the other desktop, as if the keyboard shortcut for the switch got buffered somewhere... Opening a issue in FogzBugz is a good idea so it doesn't get forgotten. Peter On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 3:15 PM, J.F. Rick <self@je77.com> wrote:
Hi everybody,
I just upgraded to Ubuntu 15.10 and am using Unity User Interface. I want Pharo to use the full screen (i.e., above the menu bar and launcher). Inside Pharo, I can choose "Toggle full screen mode". This works to some extent but has some problems:
(1) I can no longer switch applications or desktops (i.e., pager). So it stops me doing work where I move between Pharo and a browser. This may be expected functionality.
(2) More problematically, when I try to switch out of full screen mode by choosing "Toggle full screen mode", the Pharo interface completely disappears (just a giant gray area) and no mouse or keyboard events seem to register. I have to use command line to kill it. In good news, I can use "save and quit" instead and relaunching it just has it in maximum mode (full screen but launcher and menu bar are visible). I can then toggle full screen mode twice to get back to full screen.
I searched for this on FogBugz but found nothing. Is there a workaround? This seems like a VM issue. Is there a newer VM that fixes this? I just used the most recent one on the Pharo 4.0 download page.
If nobody has a fix, I'll open a case on FogBugz. This isn't a large problem but it would be nice to have this
Cheers,
Jeff
2015-10-28 15:35 GMT+01:00 Peter Uhnák <i.uhnak@gmail.com>:
I think there must be some incompatibility between Pharo and the host window manager/desktop environment.
On Debian/dwm (I am using Ubuntu VM) I can reproduce (1), but not (2).
There is however interesting behavior... if I try to switch desktop while in fullscreen it doesn't switch, however once I switch back to non-fullscreen, suddenly I jump to the other desktop, as if the keyboard shortcut for the switch got buffered somewhere...
Opening a issue in FogzBugz is a good idea so it doesn't get forgotten.
Peter
On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 3:15 PM, J.F. Rick <self@je77.com> wrote:
Hi everybody,
I just upgraded to Ubuntu 15.10 and am using Unity User Interface. I want Pharo to use the full screen (i.e., above the menu bar and launcher). Inside Pharo, I can choose "Toggle full screen mode". This works to some extent but has some problems:
(1) I can no longer switch applications or desktops (i.e., pager). So it stops me doing work where I move between Pharo and a browser. This may be expected functionality.
(2) More problematically, when I try to switch out of full screen mode by choosing "Toggle full screen mode", the Pharo interface completely disappears (just a giant gray area) and no mouse or keyboard events seem to register. I have to use command line to kill it. In good news, I can use "save and quit" instead and relaunching it just has it in maximum mode (full screen but launcher and menu bar are visible). I can then toggle full screen mode twice to get back to full screen.
I searched for this on FogBugz but found nothing. Is there a workaround? This seems like a VM issue. Is there a newer VM that fixes this? I just used the most recent one on the Pharo 4.0 download page.
If nobody has a fix, I'll open a case on FogBugz. This isn't a large problem but it would be nice to have this
It is a know problem (with possible fixes) (http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7812) You can not switch back from fullscreen on a linux 64-bit system ( http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7833) (maybe not only 32bit issue, but just the more recent windowmanager)
Cheers,
Jeff
Cool. I guess if there is a bug report on squeak then there is no reason to create one on pharo. If you need someone to test a solution on Ubuntu 15.10, let me know. On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:21 AM Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-10-28 15:35 GMT+01:00 Peter Uhnák <i.uhnak@gmail.com>:
I think there must be some incompatibility between Pharo and the host window manager/desktop environment.
On Debian/dwm (I am using Ubuntu VM) I can reproduce (1), but not (2).
There is however interesting behavior... if I try to switch desktop while in fullscreen it doesn't switch, however once I switch back to non-fullscreen, suddenly I jump to the other desktop, as if the keyboard shortcut for the switch got buffered somewhere...
Opening a issue in FogzBugz is a good idea so it doesn't get forgotten.
Peter
On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 3:15 PM, J.F. Rick <self@je77.com> wrote:
Hi everybody,
I just upgraded to Ubuntu 15.10 and am using Unity User Interface. I want Pharo to use the full screen (i.e., above the menu bar and launcher). Inside Pharo, I can choose "Toggle full screen mode". This works to some extent but has some problems:
(1) I can no longer switch applications or desktops (i.e., pager). So it stops me doing work where I move between Pharo and a browser. This may be expected functionality.
(2) More problematically, when I try to switch out of full screen mode by choosing "Toggle full screen mode", the Pharo interface completely disappears (just a giant gray area) and no mouse or keyboard events seem to register. I have to use command line to kill it. In good news, I can use "save and quit" instead and relaunching it just has it in maximum mode (full screen but launcher and menu bar are visible). I can then toggle full screen mode twice to get back to full screen.
I searched for this on FogBugz but found nothing. Is there a workaround? This seems like a VM issue. Is there a newer VM that fixes this? I just used the most recent one on the Pharo 4.0 download page.
If nobody has a fix, I'll open a case on FogBugz. This isn't a large problem but it would be nice to have this
It is a know problem (with possible fixes) (http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7812) You can not switch back from fullscreen on a linux 64-bit system ( http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7833) (maybe not only 32bit issue, but just the more recent windowmanager)
Cheers,
Jeff
2015-10-28 20:14 GMT+01:00 J.F. Rick <self@je77.com>:
Cool. I guess if there is a bug report on squeak then there is no reason to create one on pharo. If you need someone to test a solution on Ubuntu 15.10, let me know.
Hi Jeff, can you check this version, it works for me on DISTRIB_ID="elementary OS" DISTRIB_RELEASE=0.3.1 DISTRIB_CODENAME=freya DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="elementary OS Freya" https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8yEahnuIem2VGJlejJpUjZfZHc/view?usp=sharin... it should work on Ubuntu, but I don|t have Ubuntu 15 installed.
On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:21 AM Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-10-28 15:35 GMT+01:00 Peter Uhnák <i.uhnak@gmail.com>:
I think there must be some incompatibility between Pharo and the host window manager/desktop environment.
On Debian/dwm (I am using Ubuntu VM) I can reproduce (1), but not (2).
There is however interesting behavior... if I try to switch desktop while in fullscreen it doesn't switch, however once I switch back to non-fullscreen, suddenly I jump to the other desktop, as if the keyboard shortcut for the switch got buffered somewhere...
Opening a issue in FogzBugz is a good idea so it doesn't get forgotten.
Peter
On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 3:15 PM, J.F. Rick <self@je77.com> wrote:
Hi everybody,
I just upgraded to Ubuntu 15.10 and am using Unity User Interface. I want Pharo to use the full screen (i.e., above the menu bar and launcher). Inside Pharo, I can choose "Toggle full screen mode". This works to some extent but has some problems:
(1) I can no longer switch applications or desktops (i.e., pager). So it stops me doing work where I move between Pharo and a browser. This may be expected functionality.
(2) More problematically, when I try to switch out of full screen mode by choosing "Toggle full screen mode", the Pharo interface completely disappears (just a giant gray area) and no mouse or keyboard events seem to register. I have to use command line to kill it. In good news, I can use "save and quit" instead and relaunching it just has it in maximum mode (full screen but launcher and menu bar are visible). I can then toggle full screen mode twice to get back to full screen.
I searched for this on FogBugz but found nothing. Is there a workaround? This seems like a VM issue. Is there a newer VM that fixes this? I just used the most recent one on the Pharo 4.0 download page.
If nobody has a fix, I'll open a case on FogBugz. This isn't a large problem but it would be nice to have this
It is a know problem (with possible fixes) (http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7812) You can not switch back from fullscreen on a linux 64-bit system ( http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7833) (maybe not only 32bit issue, but just the more recent windowmanager)
Cheers,
Jeff
Works like a charm: both toggling modes and using the Unity pager to switch workspaces. Thanks! Jeff On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 6:40 PM Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-10-28 20:14 GMT+01:00 J.F. Rick <self@je77.com>:
Cool. I guess if there is a bug report on squeak then there is no reason to create one on pharo. If you need someone to test a solution on Ubuntu 15.10, let me know.
Hi Jeff,
can you check this version, it works for me on
DISTRIB_ID="elementary OS" DISTRIB_RELEASE=0.3.1 DISTRIB_CODENAME=freya DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="elementary OS Freya"
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8yEahnuIem2VGJlejJpUjZfZHc/view?usp=sharin...
it should work on Ubuntu, but I don|t have Ubuntu 15 installed.
On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:21 AM Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-10-28 15:35 GMT+01:00 Peter Uhnák <i.uhnak@gmail.com>:
I think there must be some incompatibility between Pharo and the host window manager/desktop environment.
On Debian/dwm (I am using Ubuntu VM) I can reproduce (1), but not (2).
There is however interesting behavior... if I try to switch desktop while in fullscreen it doesn't switch, however once I switch back to non-fullscreen, suddenly I jump to the other desktop, as if the keyboard shortcut for the switch got buffered somewhere...
Opening a issue in FogzBugz is a good idea so it doesn't get forgotten.
Peter
On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 3:15 PM, J.F. Rick <self@je77.com> wrote:
Hi everybody,
I just upgraded to Ubuntu 15.10 and am using Unity User Interface. I want Pharo to use the full screen (i.e., above the menu bar and launcher). Inside Pharo, I can choose "Toggle full screen mode". This works to some extent but has some problems:
(1) I can no longer switch applications or desktops (i.e., pager). So it stops me doing work where I move between Pharo and a browser. This may be expected functionality.
(2) More problematically, when I try to switch out of full screen mode by choosing "Toggle full screen mode", the Pharo interface completely disappears (just a giant gray area) and no mouse or keyboard events seem to register. I have to use command line to kill it. In good news, I can use "save and quit" instead and relaunching it just has it in maximum mode (full screen but launcher and menu bar are visible). I can then toggle full screen mode twice to get back to full screen.
I searched for this on FogBugz but found nothing. Is there a workaround? This seems like a VM issue. Is there a newer VM that fixes this? I just used the most recent one on the Pharo 4.0 download page.
If nobody has a fix, I'll open a case on FogBugz. This isn't a large problem but it would be nice to have this
It is a know problem (with possible fixes) (http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7812) You can not switch back from fullscreen on a linux 64-bit system ( http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7833) (maybe not only 32bit issue, but just the more recent windowmanager)
Cheers,
Jeff
2015-11-09 21:41 GMT+01:00 J.F. Rick <self@je77.com>:
Works like a charm: both toggling modes and using the Unity pager to switch workspaces.
Thank you for testing. Dave Lewis added another change to enable the old fullscreen method by a command line option. (some (older) windowmanager may not support the wm-protocol we used in our fix) see http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7833 I am sure, as soon as this change is in the squeak vm sources, estaban can pick this change for the pharo vm.
Thanks!
Jeff
On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 6:40 PM Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-10-28 20:14 GMT+01:00 J.F. Rick <self@je77.com>:
Cool. I guess if there is a bug report on squeak then there is no reason to create one on pharo. If you need someone to test a solution on Ubuntu 15.10, let me know.
Hi Jeff,
can you check this version, it works for me on
DISTRIB_ID="elementary OS" DISTRIB_RELEASE=0.3.1 DISTRIB_CODENAME=freya DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="elementary OS Freya"
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8yEahnuIem2VGJlejJpUjZfZHc/view?usp=sharin...
it should work on Ubuntu, but I don|t have Ubuntu 15 installed.
On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:21 AM Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-10-28 15:35 GMT+01:00 Peter Uhnák <i.uhnak@gmail.com>:
I think there must be some incompatibility between Pharo and the host window manager/desktop environment.
On Debian/dwm (I am using Ubuntu VM) I can reproduce (1), but not (2).
There is however interesting behavior... if I try to switch desktop while in fullscreen it doesn't switch, however once I switch back to non-fullscreen, suddenly I jump to the other desktop, as if the keyboard shortcut for the switch got buffered somewhere...
Opening a issue in FogzBugz is a good idea so it doesn't get forgotten.
Peter
On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 3:15 PM, J.F. Rick <self@je77.com> wrote:
Hi everybody,
I just upgraded to Ubuntu 15.10 and am using Unity User Interface. I want Pharo to use the full screen (i.e., above the menu bar and launcher). Inside Pharo, I can choose "Toggle full screen mode". This works to some extent but has some problems:
(1) I can no longer switch applications or desktops (i.e., pager). So it stops me doing work where I move between Pharo and a browser. This may be expected functionality.
(2) More problematically, when I try to switch out of full screen mode by choosing "Toggle full screen mode", the Pharo interface completely disappears (just a giant gray area) and no mouse or keyboard events seem to register. I have to use command line to kill it. In good news, I can use "save and quit" instead and relaunching it just has it in maximum mode (full screen but launcher and menu bar are visible). I can then toggle full screen mode twice to get back to full screen.
I searched for this on FogBugz but found nothing. Is there a workaround? This seems like a VM issue. Is there a newer VM that fixes this? I just used the most recent one on the Pharo 4.0 download page.
If nobody has a fix, I'll open a case on FogBugz. This isn't a large problem but it would be nice to have this
It is a know problem (with possible fixes) (http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7812) You can not switch back from fullscreen on a linux 64-bit system ( http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7833) (maybe not only 32bit issue, but just the more recent windowmanager)
Cheers,
Jeff
Le 28/10/15 20:14, J.F. Rick a écrit :
Cool. I guess if there is a bug report on squeak then there is no reason to create one on pharo.
Seriously? Do you think that we have the time to look at Squeak bug tracker? If it is not in fogbugz it does not exist. Try to simplify our live instead of making it more complex. Stef
If you need someone to test a solution on Ubuntu 15.10, let me know.
On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:21 AM Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@gmail.com <mailto:nicolaihess@gmail.com>> wrote:
2015-10-28 15:35 GMT+01:00 Peter Uhnák <i.uhnak@gmail.com <mailto:i.uhnak@gmail.com>>:
I think there must be some incompatibility between Pharo and the host window manager/desktop environment.
On Debian/dwm (I am using Ubuntu VM) I can reproduce (1), but not (2).
There is however interesting behavior... if I try to switch desktop while in fullscreen it doesn't switch, however once I switch back to non-fullscreen, suddenly I jump to the other desktop, as if the keyboard shortcut for the switch got buffered somewhere...
Opening a issue in FogzBugz is a good idea so it doesn't get forgotten.
Peter
On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 3:15 PM, J.F. Rick <self@je77.com <mailto:self@je77.com>> wrote:
Hi everybody,
I just upgraded to Ubuntu 15.10 and am using Unity User Interface. I want Pharo to use the full screen (i.e., above the menu bar and launcher). Inside Pharo, I can choose "Toggle full screen mode". This works to some extent but has some problems:
(1) I can no longer switch applications or desktops (i.e., pager). So it stops me doing work where I move between Pharo and a browser. This may be expected functionality.
(2) More problematically, when I try to switch out of full screen mode by choosing "Toggle full screen mode", the Pharo interface completely disappears (just a giant gray area) and no mouse or keyboard events seem to register. I have to use command line to kill it. In good news, I can use "save and quit" instead and relaunching it just has it in maximum mode (full screen but launcher and menu bar are visible). I can then toggle full screen mode twice to get back to full screen.
I searched for this on FogBugz but found nothing. Is there a workaround? This seems like a VM issue. Is there a newer VM that fixes this? I just used the most recent one on the Pharo 4.0 download page.
If nobody has a fix, I'll open a case on FogBugz. This isn't a large problem but it would be nice to have this
It is a know problem (with possible fixes) (http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7812) You can not switch back from fullscreen on a linux 64-bit system (http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7833) (maybe not only 32bit issue, but just the more recent windowmanager)
Cheers,
Jeff
2015-11-09 8:10 GMT+01:00 stepharo <stepharo@free.fr>:
Le 28/10/15 20:14, J.F. Rick a écrit :
Cool. I guess if there is a bug report on squeak then there is no reason to create one on pharo.
Seriously? Do you think that we have the time to look at Squeak bug tracker? If it is not in fogbugz it does not exist. Try to simplify our live instead of making it more complex.
Stef
not a problem. I opened the bug on squeak and I keep track on it.
If you need someone to test a solution on Ubuntu 15.10, let me know.
On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:21 AM Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-10-28 15:35 GMT+01:00 Peter Uhnák <i.uhnak@gmail.com>:
I think there must be some incompatibility between Pharo and the host window manager/desktop environment.
On Debian/dwm (I am using Ubuntu VM) I can reproduce (1), but not (2).
There is however interesting behavior... if I try to switch desktop while in fullscreen it doesn't switch, however once I switch back to non-fullscreen, suddenly I jump to the other desktop, as if the keyboard shortcut for the switch got buffered somewhere...
Opening a issue in FogzBugz is a good idea so it doesn't get forgotten.
Peter
On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 3:15 PM, J.F. Rick < <self@je77.com> self@je77.com> wrote:
Hi everybody,
I just upgraded to Ubuntu 15.10 and am using Unity User Interface. I want Pharo to use the full screen (i.e., above the menu bar and launcher). Inside Pharo, I can choose "Toggle full screen mode". This works to some extent but has some problems:
(1) I can no longer switch applications or desktops (i.e., pager). So it stops me doing work where I move between Pharo and a browser. This may be expected functionality.
(2) More problematically, when I try to switch out of full screen mode by choosing "Toggle full screen mode", the Pharo interface completely disappears (just a giant gray area) and no mouse or keyboard events seem to register. I have to use command line to kill it. In good news, I can use "save and quit" instead and relaunching it just has it in maximum mode (full screen but launcher and menu bar are visible). I can then toggle full screen mode twice to get back to full screen.
I searched for this on FogBugz but found nothing. Is there a workaround? This seems like a VM issue. Is there a newer VM that fixes this? I just used the most recent one on the Pharo 4.0 download page.
If nobody has a fix, I'll open a case on FogBugz. This isn't a large problem but it would be nice to have this
It is a know problem (with possible fixes) (http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7812) You can not switch back from fullscreen on a linux 64-bit system ( http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7833) (maybe not only 32bit issue, but just the more recent windowmanager)
Cheers,
Jeff
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