[Pharo-project] SqueakSource AND SmalltalkHub down ;)
SqueakSource AND SmalltalkHub down
Yes, it looks like SmalltalkHub replaces all features of squeaksource and mimicks also the down behavior ;)
Btw: anyone eager to try out SqueakSource3 ? It is available as and alpha Metacello Config.
Does it work with Pharo 1.2 already? Could you post a script for people to load and try? Thx T. -- NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren und surfen! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone
Am 2011-04-20 um 11:30 schrieb Torsten Bergmann:
SqueakSource AND SmalltalkHub down
Yes, it looks like SmalltalkHub replaces all features of squeaksource and mimicks also the down behavior ;)
Btw: anyone eager to try out SqueakSource3 ? It is available as and alpha Metacello Config.
Does it work with Pharo 1.2 already? Could you post a script for people to load and try?
Gofer new squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfSqueakSource'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSqueakSource) project version: #development) load. I've yet to test whether it works in Pharo at all, however, I tried to focus on portability. I would be happy with any feedback :) So Long, -Tobias
Hi Tobias: Sorry if I'm asking something already explained, but what are the new features of Squeaksource3? I'm interested in try being that I was thinking in provide it with some sort of data replication (only ideas at the moment). Thanks 2011/4/20 Tobias Pape <Das.Linux@gmx.de>:
Am 2011-04-20 um 11:30 schrieb Torsten Bergmann:
SqueakSource AND SmalltalkHub down
Yes, it looks like SmalltalkHub replaces all features of squeaksource and mimicks also the down behavior ;)
Btw: anyone eager to try out SqueakSource3 ? It is available as and alpha Metacello Config.
Does it work with Pharo 1.2 already? Could you post a script for people to load and try?
Gofer new     squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository';     package: 'ConfigurationOfSqueakSource';     load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSqueakSource) project version: #development) load.
I've yet to test whether it works in Pharo at all, however, I tried to focus on portability. I would be happy with any feedback :)
So Long, Â Â Â Â -Tobias
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Am 2011-04-20 um 12:32 schrieb Germán Arduino:
Hi Tobias:
Sorry if I'm asking something already explained, but what are the new features of Squeaksource3?
I'm interested in try being that I was thinking in provide it with some sort of data replication (only ideas at the moment).
Am 2011-04-20 um 12:32 schrieb Germán Arduino:
Hi Tobias:
Sorry if I'm asking something already explained, but what are the new features of Squeaksource3?
I'm interested in try being that I was thinking in provide it with some sort of data replication (only ideas at the moment).
I have not implemented replication yet, but it is high on my list. There are no _really_ distinct features but in contrast to the oriiginal SqueakSource and SqueakSource 2, ⢠runs on Seaside3.0 and Magritte 2 ⢠is highly aimed to run on GemStone ⢠includes a basic Issue tracking implemented by Dale Henrichs I integrated the features that were âlurking aroundâ , eg, in the source.squeak.org instance. So the recently added direct access to diffs between versions as either .diff or .cs is available in SqueakSource3, too. My highest aim was to improve extensibility, to allow drop-ins to extend squeaksource or to have a minimal one. For example, you can load the mare minimum of SqueakSource without even the ability to store versions to disk or have a full-featured SqueakSource that also includes Statistics, IssueTracking and (email) notification. I hope that helps imagine the SqueakSource3 :) So Long, -Tobias
2011/4/20 Tobias Pape <Das.Linux@gmx.de>:
Am 2011-04-20 um 12:32 schrieb Germán Arduino:
Hi Tobias:
Sorry if I'm asking something already explained, but what are the new features of Squeaksource3?
I'm interested in try being that I was thinking in provide it with some sort of data replication (only ideas at the moment).
I have not implemented replication yet, but it is high on my list.
There are no _really_ distinct features but in contrast to the oriiginal SqueakSource and SqueakSource 2, ⢠runs on Seaside3.0 and Magritte 2 ⢠is highly aimed to run on GemStone ⢠includes a basic Issue tracking implemented by Dale Henrichs
I integrated the features that were âlurking aroundâ , eg, in the source.squeak.org instance. So the recently added direct access to diffs between versions as either .diff or .cs is available in SqueakSource3, too.
My highest aim was to improve extensibility, to allow drop-ins to extend squeaksource or to have a minimal one. For example, you can load the mare minimum of SqueakSource without even the ability to store versions to disk or have a full-featured SqueakSource that also includes Statistics, IssueTracking and (email) notification.
I hope that helps imagine the SqueakSource3 :)
So Long, Â Â Â Â -Tobias_______________________________________________
Thanks for the comments TobÃas. I've a good idea now and definitely I will give it a try. About the replication feature, do you have some ideas in mind? I was thinking in different possibilities: 1. Develop a feature in the same squeaksource that does this. 2. Use some sort of replicated file system (as XtreemFS: http://www.xtreemfs.org/). It will require to install it on XtreemOS (http://www.xtreemos.eu/) 3. Use some nosql horizontally scalable DB (as Riak / Cassandra) 4. Use Magma/Gemstone But, I repeat, just ideas until now. I was thinking in this feature to my own use, because I need a reliable store of my source code on my company. Cheers. Germán.
Am 2011-04-20 um 13:04 schrieb Germán Arduino:
2011/4/20 Tobias Pape <Das.Linux@gmx.de>:
Am 2011-04-20 um 12:32 schrieb Germán Arduino:
Hi Tobias:
Sorry if I'm asking something already explained, but what are the new features of Squeaksource3?
I'm interested in try being that I was thinking in provide it with some sort of data replication (only ideas at the moment).
I have not implemented replication yet, but it is high on my list.
There are no _really_ distinct features but in contrast to the oriiginal SqueakSource and SqueakSource 2, ⢠runs on Seaside3.0 and Magritte 2 ⢠is highly aimed to run on GemStone ⢠includes a basic Issue tracking implemented by Dale Henrichs
I integrated the features that were âlurking aroundâ , eg, in the source.squeak.org instance. So the recently added direct access to diffs between versions as either .diff or .cs is available in SqueakSource3, too.
My highest aim was to improve extensibility, to allow drop-ins to extend squeaksource or to have a minimal one. For example, you can load the mare minimum of SqueakSource without even the ability to store versions to disk or have a full-featured SqueakSource that also includes Statistics, IssueTracking and (email) notification.
I hope that helps imagine the SqueakSource3 :)
So Long, -Tobias_______________________________________________
Thanks for the comments TobÃas. I've a good idea now and definitely I will give it a try.
About the replication feature, do you have some ideas in mind?
I was thinking in different possibilities:
1. Develop a feature in the same squeaksource that does this. 2. Use some sort of replicated file system (as XtreemFS: http://www.xtreemfs.org/). It will require to install it on XtreemOS (http://www.xtreemos.eu/) 3. Use some nosql horizontally scalable DB (as Riak / Cassandra) 4. Use Magma/Gemstone
Gemstone already is my main target. However, I think the synchronization of the Monticello versions stored is less a problem than synchronization of the user data. I think a a replicated file system won't help there.
But, I repeat, just ideas until now. I was thinking in this feature to my own use, because I need a reliable store of my source code on my company.
I think of a SqueakSource/GemStone appliance :) So Long, -Tobias
Le mercredi 20 avril 2011 à 11:30 +0200, Torsten Bergmann a écrit :
SqueakSource AND SmalltalkHub down
Yes, it looks like SmalltalkHub replaces all features of squeaksource and mimicks also the down behavior ;) Hehe :-) I shutdown the demo of SmalltalkHub because of some issues we got, especially a (stupid) security hole.
I'll let you know when it will be back online. Cheers, Nicolas
Btw: anyone eager to try out SqueakSource3 ? It is available as and alpha Metacello Config.
Does it work with Pharo 1.2 already? Could you post a script for people to load and try?
Thx T.
-- Nicolas Petton http://www.nicolas-petton.fr
Maybe, you should put a nice page when the server is down. On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Nicolas Petton <petton.nicolas@gmail.com> wrote:
Le mercredi 20 avril 2011 à 11:30 +0200, Torsten Bergmann a écrit :
SqueakSource AND SmalltalkHub down
Yes, it looks like SmalltalkHub replaces all features of squeaksource and mimicks also the down behavior ;) Hehe :-) I shutdown the demo of SmalltalkHub because of some issues we got, especially a (stupid) security hole.
I'll let you know when it will be back online.
Cheers, Nicolas
Btw: anyone eager to try out SqueakSource3 ? It is available as and alpha Metacello Config.
Does it work with Pharo 1.2 already? Could you post a script for people to load and try?
Thx T.
-- Nicolas Petton http://www.nicolas-petton.fr
-- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/
On 20. 04. 2011 11:30, Torsten Bergmann wrote:
SqueakSource AND SmalltalkHub down
Yes, it looks like SmalltalkHub replaces all features of squeaksource and mimicks also the down behavior ;)
Guys, be patient please, this is alpha release only! I think StHub is worth waiting a bit more to stabilize and I'm sure Nico and Seb will manage to do the job. And you already see how big step forward not to mention all yet to be explored potential has this hub, isn't that so? Janko -- Janko Mivšek Aida/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si
+1 Janko we support nic and seb do not worry :) People are just too excited. Stef
SqueakSource AND SmalltalkHub down
Yes, it looks like SmalltalkHub replaces all features of squeaksource and mimicks also the down behavior ;)
Guys, be patient please, this is alpha release only! I think StHub is worth waiting a bit more to stabilize and I'm sure Nico and Seb will manage to do the job.
And you already see how big step forward not to mention all yet to be explored potential has this hub, isn't that so?
Janko
-- Janko Mivšek Aida/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si
Janko Mivšek wrote:
Guys, be patient please, this is alpha release only! I think StHub is worth waiting a bit more to stabilize and I'm sure Nico and Seb will manage to do the job.
And you already see how big step forward not to mention all yet to be explored potential has this hub, isn't that so?
Absolutely, at least we have been able to lift the lid and have a peak at what's coming :) -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/SqueakSource-AND-SmalltalkHub-down-tp3462530p3463021.h... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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