Igor wrote:

Anyways, UI stuff is tend to be complex no matter how nicely you wrap it.. because it is UI.

I'd have to disagree there. Building UIs with Glamour is easy. I'd say Spec is simply at too low an abstraction level for most UI work. We might need a different abstraction for different kind of applications (non-browsers, something like hotdraw comes to mind), but Glamour provides a very good base for most of the tools in the Pharo image. Stephan