why sparta depends on Taskit?
why sparta depends on Taskit? Since I cannot load it I cannot try to understand. I find strange that a graphical canvas depends on a concurrent task management system. I tried to follow the instruction given by glenn and it failed. So so far I could not see any recent versions of Bloc. I do not understand why the image produced by the jenkins job crashes my vm. Stef wget -O - http://get.pharo.org/60+vm | bash ./pharo Pharo.image config http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Bloc/main ConfigurationOfBloc --install=development just failed yesterday for me.
Hi Sparta definitely does not depend on TaskIt :) I have no idea what is it. Cheers Alex On Nov 5, 2016 6:54 PM, "stepharo" <stepharo@free.fr> wrote:
why sparta depends on Taskit?
Since I cannot load it I cannot try to understand. I find strange that a graphical canvas depends on a concurrent task management system.
I tried to follow the instruction given by glenn and it failed. So so far I could not see any recent versions of Bloc.
I do not understand why the image produced by the jenkins job crashes my vm.
Stef
wget -O - http://get.pharo.org/60+vm | bash ./pharo Pharo.image config http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Bloc/main ConfigurationOfBloc --install=development
just failed yesterday for me.
Hi
Hi
Sparta definitely does not depend on TaskIt :) I have no idea what is it.
Ok we are safe then :) I was a bit feeling dizzy about this. I read the code and this is bloc when it launches a new task. Now I will stop to try to look at bloc because I get just losing my time. Sorry to have asked. I think that I should focus on the web sadly.
Cheers Alex
On Nov 5, 2016 6:54 PM, "stepharo" <stepharo@free.fr <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> wrote:
why sparta depends on Taskit?
Since I cannot load it I cannot try to understand. I find strange that a graphical canvas depends on a concurrent task management system.
I tried to follow the instruction given by glenn and it failed. So so far I could not see any recent versions of Bloc.
I do not understand why the image produced by the jenkins job crashes my vm.
Stef
wget -O - http://get.pharo.org/60+vm | bash ./pharo Pharo.image config http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Bloc/main <http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Bloc/main> ConfigurationOfBloc --install=development
just failed yesterday for me.
The best would be if you could make a video of how you install Bloc and send to Glenn. Because it works for us and for Travis CI. Sound like you face a strange and not so easy to catch issue. Cheers Alex On Nov 5, 2016 6:54 PM, "stepharo" <stepharo@free.fr> wrote:
why sparta depends on Taskit?
Since I cannot load it I cannot try to understand. I find strange that a graphical canvas depends on a concurrent task management system.
I tried to follow the instruction given by glenn and it failed. So so far I could not see any recent versions of Bloc.
I do not understand why the image produced by the jenkins job crashes my vm.
Stef
wget -O - http://get.pharo.org/60+vm | bash ./pharo Pharo.image config http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Bloc/main ConfigurationOfBloc --install=development
just failed yesterday for me.
I got to the ci and I click on the image and download and drop it on my vm=> crash. Why doing a video? open a shell wget -O - http://get.pharo.org/60+vm | bash ./pharo Pharo.image config http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Bloc/main <http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Bloc/main> ConfigurationOfBloc --install=development And it fails loading taskit. Stef Le 6/11/16 à 11:01, Aliaksei Syrel a écrit :
The best would be if you could make a video of how you install Bloc and send to Glenn. Because it works for us and for Travis CI. Sound like you face a strange and not so easy to catch issue.
Cheers Alex
On Nov 5, 2016 6:54 PM, "stepharo" <stepharo@free.fr <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> wrote:
why sparta depends on Taskit?
Since I cannot load it I cannot try to understand. I find strange that a graphical canvas depends on a concurrent task management system.
I tried to follow the instruction given by glenn and it failed. So so far I could not see any recent versions of Bloc.
I do not understand why the image produced by the jenkins job crashes my vm.
Stef
wget -O - http://get.pharo.org/60+vm | bash ./pharo Pharo.image config http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Bloc/main <http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Bloc/main> ConfigurationOfBloc --install=development
just failed yesterday for me.
Hi, I think there are a couple of thinks that are mixed up. First, the image from CI: - download the latest image built on October 12 on Jenkins: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/Bloc/PHARO=60,VERSION=development... - run it either with the stable of the latest VM ==> you should get no crash when opening the image (I just checked again) The code loading is a bit strange. I just tried and I do now know why this does not work from the command line on Mac. For me it somehow hanged while loading PetitCSS. There is something strange with Metacello and projects that depend on Glamour that I could not quite fully understand yet and I am looking at it since a month. Dale, I need your help, but I will follow up on this :). At the same time, I can reliably load the code using this script from a fresh Pharo image and the latest VM: Gofer it smalltalkhubUser: 'Pharo' project: 'Bloc'; configuration; loadDevelopment. Can you please try this one? Cheers, Doru
On Nov 6, 2016, at 11:24 AM, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr> wrote:
I got to the ci and I click on the image and download and drop it on my vm=> crash. Why doing a video?
open a shell
wget -O - http://get.pharo.org/60+vm | bash ./pharo Pharo.image config http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Bloc/main ConfigurationOfBloc --install=development
And it fails loading taskit.
Stef
Le 6/11/16 à 11:01, Aliaksei Syrel a écrit :
The best would be if you could make a video of how you install Bloc and send to Glenn. Because it works for us and for Travis CI. Sound like you face a strange and not so easy to catch issue.
Cheers Alex
On Nov 5, 2016 6:54 PM, "stepharo" <stepharo@free.fr> wrote: why sparta depends on Taskit?
Since I cannot load it I cannot try to understand. I find strange that a graphical canvas depends on a concurrent task management system.
I tried to follow the instruction given by glenn and it failed. So so far I could not see any recent versions of Bloc.
I do not understand why the image produced by the jenkins job crashes my vm.
Stef
wget -O - http://get.pharo.org/60+vm | bash ./pharo Pharo.image config http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Bloc/main ConfigurationOfBloc --install=development
just failed yesterday for me.
-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "What we can governs what we wish."
Hi doru
Hi,
I think there are a couple of thinks that are mixed up.
yes they both contribute to making bloc not accessible to mortals.
First, the image from CI: - download the latest image built on October 12 on Jenkins: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/Bloc/PHARO=60,VERSION=development... - run it either with the stable of the latest VM ==> you should get no crash when opening the image (I just checked again)
It crashes with me systematically. May be this is not the latest stable vm.
The code loading is a bit strange. I just tried and I do now know why this does not work from the command line on Mac. For me it somehow hanged while loading PetitCSS. There is something strange with Metacello and projects that depend on Glamour that I could not quite fully understand yet and I am looking at it since a month. Dale, I need your help, but I will follow up on this :). At least I'm not the only one. guille told me that the problem is not in taskit because his jobs are fully working. At the same time, I can reliably load the code using this script from a fresh Pharo image and the latest VM: Good to know
Gofer it smalltalkhubUser: 'Pharo' project: 'Bloc'; configuration; loadDevelopment.
Can you please try this one?
I will. Now I'm busy and since I cannot push little fixes I'm not really interested to lose time. I checked the code with the image glenn sent me and since there is not enough good class comments I decided that I will not invest. I'm kind of fed up losing my time reverse engineering other code. STef
Cheers, Doru
On Nov 6, 2016, at 11:24 AM, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr> wrote:
I got to the ci and I click on the image and download and drop it on my vm=> crash. Why doing a video?
open a shell
wget -O - http://get.pharo.org/60+vm | bash ./pharo Pharo.image config http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Bloc/main ConfigurationOfBloc --install=development
And it fails loading taskit.
Stef
Le 6/11/16 à 11:01, Aliaksei Syrel a écrit :
The best would be if you could make a video of how you install Bloc and send to Glenn. Because it works for us and for Travis CI. Sound like you face a strange and not so easy to catch issue.
Cheers Alex
On Nov 5, 2016 6:54 PM, "stepharo" <stepharo@free.fr> wrote: why sparta depends on Taskit?
Since I cannot load it I cannot try to understand. I find strange that a graphical canvas depends on a concurrent task management system.
I tried to follow the instruction given by glenn and it failed. So so far I could not see any recent versions of Bloc.
I do not understand why the image produced by the jenkins job crashes my vm.
Stef
wget -O - http://get.pharo.org/60+vm | bash ./pharo Pharo.image config http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Bloc/main ConfigurationOfBloc --install=development
just failed yesterday for me.
-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com
"What we can governs what we wish."
Hi Just taking Bloc image from CI does not work. Don't forget that you need Sparta plugin (libMoz2D.dylib/DLL/so). I didn't find a way how to ship plugin with image, sorry... It can be downloaded from bintray https://bintray.com/syrel/Moz2D/libMoz2D. Cheers Alex On Nov 6, 2016 4:58 PM, "Tudor Girba" <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
I think there are a couple of thinks that are mixed up.
First, the image from CI: - download the latest image built on October 12 on Jenkins: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/Bloc/PHARO= 60,VERSION=development,VM=vm/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/Bloc.zip - run it either with the stable of the latest VM ==> you should get no crash when opening the image (I just checked again)
The code loading is a bit strange. I just tried and I do now know why this does not work from the command line on Mac. For me it somehow hanged while loading PetitCSS. There is something strange with Metacello and projects that depend on Glamour that I could not quite fully understand yet and I am looking at it since a month. Dale, I need your help, but I will follow up on this :).
At the same time, I can reliably load the code using this script from a fresh Pharo image and the latest VM:
Gofer it smalltalkhubUser: 'Pharo' project: 'Bloc'; configuration; loadDevelopment.
Can you please try this one?
Cheers, Doru
On Nov 6, 2016, at 11:24 AM, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr> wrote:
I got to the ci and I click on the image and download and drop it on my vm=> crash. Why doing a video?
open a shell
wget -O - http://get.pharo.org/60+vm | bash ./pharo Pharo.image config http://www.smalltalkhub.com/ mc/Pharo/Bloc/main ConfigurationOfBloc --install=development
And it fails loading taskit.
Stef
Le 6/11/16 à 11:01, Aliaksei Syrel a écrit :
The best would be if you could make a video of how you install Bloc and send to Glenn. Because it works for us and for Travis CI. Sound like you face a strange and not so easy to catch issue.
Cheers Alex
On Nov 5, 2016 6:54 PM, "stepharo" <stepharo@free.fr> wrote: why sparta depends on Taskit?
Since I cannot load it I cannot try to understand. I find strange that a graphical canvas depends on a concurrent task management system.
I tried to follow the instruction given by glenn and it failed. So so far I could not see any recent versions of Bloc.
I do not understand why the image produced by the jenkins job crashes my vm.
Stef
wget -O - http://get.pharo.org/60+vm | bash ./pharo Pharo.image config http://www.smalltalkhub.com/ mc/Pharo/Bloc/main ConfigurationOfBloc --install=development
just failed yesterday for me.
-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com
"What we can governs what we wish."
Hi, It does not work to run the Bloc examples with the regular VM, but it does work to browse the code. Stef is saying that he cannot browse code in the Bloc image. This is a significant problem, but I just do not see why this is so. So, it would be very useful for us to learn where this problem could come from. Doru
On Nov 6, 2016, at 7:01 PM, Aliaksei Syrel <alex.syrel@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
Just taking Bloc image from CI does not work. Don't forget that you need Sparta plugin (libMoz2D.dylib/DLL/so). I didn't find a way how to ship plugin with image, sorry...
It can be downloaded from bintray https://bintray.com/syrel/Moz2D/libMoz2D.
Cheers Alex
On Nov 6, 2016 4:58 PM, "Tudor Girba" <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote: Hi,
I think there are a couple of thinks that are mixed up.
First, the image from CI: - download the latest image built on October 12 on Jenkins: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/Bloc/PHARO=60,VERSION=development... - run it either with the stable of the latest VM ==> you should get no crash when opening the image (I just checked again)
The code loading is a bit strange. I just tried and I do now know why this does not work from the command line on Mac. For me it somehow hanged while loading PetitCSS. There is something strange with Metacello and projects that depend on Glamour that I could not quite fully understand yet and I am looking at it since a month. Dale, I need your help, but I will follow up on this :).
At the same time, I can reliably load the code using this script from a fresh Pharo image and the latest VM:
Gofer it smalltalkhubUser: 'Pharo' project: 'Bloc'; configuration; loadDevelopment.
Can you please try this one?
Cheers, Doru
On Nov 6, 2016, at 11:24 AM, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr> wrote:
I got to the ci and I click on the image and download and drop it on my vm=> crash. Why doing a video?
open a shell
wget -O - http://get.pharo.org/60+vm | bash ./pharo Pharo.image config http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Bloc/main ConfigurationOfBloc --install=development
And it fails loading taskit.
Stef
Le 6/11/16 à 11:01, Aliaksei Syrel a écrit :
The best would be if you could make a video of how you install Bloc and send to Glenn. Because it works for us and for Travis CI. Sound like you face a strange and not so easy to catch issue.
Cheers Alex
On Nov 5, 2016 6:54 PM, "stepharo" <stepharo@free.fr> wrote: why sparta depends on Taskit?
Since I cannot load it I cannot try to understand. I find strange that a graphical canvas depends on a concurrent task management system.
I tried to follow the instruction given by glenn and it failed. So so far I could not see any recent versions of Bloc.
I do not understand why the image produced by the jenkins job crashes my vm.
Stef
wget -O - http://get.pharo.org/60+vm | bash ./pharo Pharo.image config http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Bloc/main ConfigurationOfBloc --install=development
just failed yesterday for me.
-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com
"What we can governs what we wish."
-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "Not knowing how to do something is not an argument for how it cannot be done."
may be my vm is old but this is a spur one. I will try with the latest one and report. stef Le 6/11/16 à 20:19, Tudor Girba a écrit :
Hi,
It does not work to run the Bloc examples with the regular VM, but it does work to browse the code. Stef is saying that he cannot browse code in the Bloc image.
This is a significant problem, but I just do not see why this is so. So, it would be very useful for us to learn where this problem could come from.
Doru
On Nov 6, 2016, at 7:01 PM, Aliaksei Syrel <alex.syrel@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
Just taking Bloc image from CI does not work. Don't forget that you need Sparta plugin (libMoz2D.dylib/DLL/so). I didn't find a way how to ship plugin with image, sorry...
It can be downloaded from bintray https://bintray.com/syrel/Moz2D/libMoz2D.
Cheers Alex
On Nov 6, 2016 4:58 PM, "Tudor Girba" <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote: Hi,
I think there are a couple of thinks that are mixed up.
First, the image from CI: - download the latest image built on October 12 on Jenkins: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/Bloc/PHARO=60,VERSION=development... - run it either with the stable of the latest VM ==> you should get no crash when opening the image (I just checked again)
The code loading is a bit strange. I just tried and I do now know why this does not work from the command line on Mac. For me it somehow hanged while loading PetitCSS. There is something strange with Metacello and projects that depend on Glamour that I could not quite fully understand yet and I am looking at it since a month. Dale, I need your help, but I will follow up on this :).
At the same time, I can reliably load the code using this script from a fresh Pharo image and the latest VM:
Gofer it smalltalkhubUser: 'Pharo' project: 'Bloc'; configuration; loadDevelopment.
Can you please try this one?
Cheers, Doru
On Nov 6, 2016, at 11:24 AM, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr> wrote:
I got to the ci and I click on the image and download and drop it on my vm=> crash. Why doing a video?
open a shell
wget -O - http://get.pharo.org/60+vm | bash ./pharo Pharo.image config http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Bloc/main ConfigurationOfBloc --install=development
And it fails loading taskit.
Stef
Le 6/11/16 à 11:01, Aliaksei Syrel a écrit :
The best would be if you could make a video of how you install Bloc and send to Glenn. Because it works for us and for Travis CI. Sound like you face a strange and not so easy to catch issue.
Cheers Alex
On Nov 5, 2016 6:54 PM, "stepharo" <stepharo@free.fr> wrote: why sparta depends on Taskit?
Since I cannot load it I cannot try to understand. I find strange that a graphical canvas depends on a concurrent task management system.
I tried to follow the instruction given by glenn and it failed. So so far I could not see any recent versions of Bloc.
I do not understand why the image produced by the jenkins job crashes my vm.
Stef
wget -O - http://get.pharo.org/60+vm | bash ./pharo Pharo.image config http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Bloc/main ConfigurationOfBloc --install=development
just failed yesterday for me.
-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com
"What we can governs what we wish."
-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com
"Not knowing how to do something is not an argument for how it cannot be done."
I tried to open the image that glenn gave me and I can browse the code (I got an FFI problem due to the fact that the lib is not present). I tried and I could open the image from the ci with the vm glenn sent me. So I will update my vm. Stef Le 6/11/16 à 20:19, Tudor Girba a écrit :
Hi,
It does not work to run the Bloc examples with the regular VM, but it does work to browse the code. Stef is saying that he cannot browse code in the Bloc image.
This is a significant problem, but I just do not see why this is so. So, it would be very useful for us to learn where this problem could come from.
Doru
On Nov 6, 2016, at 7:01 PM, Aliaksei Syrel <alex.syrel@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
Just taking Bloc image from CI does not work. Don't forget that you need Sparta plugin (libMoz2D.dylib/DLL/so). I didn't find a way how to ship plugin with image, sorry...
It can be downloaded from bintray https://bintray.com/syrel/Moz2D/libMoz2D.
Cheers Alex
On Nov 6, 2016 4:58 PM, "Tudor Girba" <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote: Hi,
I think there are a couple of thinks that are mixed up.
First, the image from CI: - download the latest image built on October 12 on Jenkins: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/Bloc/PHARO=60,VERSION=development... - run it either with the stable of the latest VM ==> you should get no crash when opening the image (I just checked again)
The code loading is a bit strange. I just tried and I do now know why this does not work from the command line on Mac. For me it somehow hanged while loading PetitCSS. There is something strange with Metacello and projects that depend on Glamour that I could not quite fully understand yet and I am looking at it since a month. Dale, I need your help, but I will follow up on this :).
At the same time, I can reliably load the code using this script from a fresh Pharo image and the latest VM:
Gofer it smalltalkhubUser: 'Pharo' project: 'Bloc'; configuration; loadDevelopment.
Can you please try this one?
Cheers, Doru
On Nov 6, 2016, at 11:24 AM, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr> wrote:
I got to the ci and I click on the image and download and drop it on my vm=> crash. Why doing a video?
open a shell
wget -O - http://get.pharo.org/60+vm | bash ./pharo Pharo.image config http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Bloc/main ConfigurationOfBloc --install=development
And it fails loading taskit.
Stef
Le 6/11/16 à 11:01, Aliaksei Syrel a écrit :
The best would be if you could make a video of how you install Bloc and send to Glenn. Because it works for us and for Travis CI. Sound like you face a strange and not so easy to catch issue.
Cheers Alex
On Nov 5, 2016 6:54 PM, "stepharo" <stepharo@free.fr> wrote: why sparta depends on Taskit?
Since I cannot load it I cannot try to understand. I find strange that a graphical canvas depends on a concurrent task management system.
I tried to follow the instruction given by glenn and it failed. So so far I could not see any recent versions of Bloc.
I do not understand why the image produced by the jenkins job crashes my vm.
Stef
wget -O - http://get.pharo.org/60+vm | bash ./pharo Pharo.image config http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Bloc/main ConfigurationOfBloc --install=development
just failed yesterday for me.
-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com
"What we can governs what we wish."
-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com
"Not knowing how to do something is not an argument for how it cannot be done."
Hi,
On Nov 6, 2016, at 9:43 PM, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr> wrote:
I tried to open the image that glenn gave me and I can browse the code (I got an FFI problem due to the fact that the lib is not present).
I tried and I could open the image from the ci with the vm glenn sent me.
So I will update my vm.
Thanks! So, the default Pharo VM does not have the Moz2D plugin, and likely that is what Glenn gave you. Could you try with that VM to run 2 examples? I still have a funky issue with my machine that I can only run one example, and then I get a black screen for the second one. Cheers, Doru
Stef
Le 6/11/16 à 20:19, Tudor Girba a écrit :
Hi,
It does not work to run the Bloc examples with the regular VM, but it does work to browse the code. Stef is saying that he cannot browse code in the Bloc image.
This is a significant problem, but I just do not see why this is so. So, it would be very useful for us to learn where this problem could come from.
Doru
On Nov 6, 2016, at 7:01 PM, Aliaksei Syrel <alex.syrel@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
Just taking Bloc image from CI does not work. Don't forget that you need Sparta plugin (libMoz2D.dylib/DLL/so). I didn't find a way how to ship plugin with image, sorry...
It can be downloaded from bintray https://bintray.com/syrel/Moz2D/libMoz2D.
Cheers Alex
On Nov 6, 2016 4:58 PM, "Tudor Girba" <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote: Hi,
I think there are a couple of thinks that are mixed up.
First, the image from CI: - download the latest image built on October 12 on Jenkins: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/Bloc/PHARO=60,VERSION=development... - run it either with the stable of the latest VM ==> you should get no crash when opening the image (I just checked again)
The code loading is a bit strange. I just tried and I do now know why this does not work from the command line on Mac. For me it somehow hanged while loading PetitCSS. There is something strange with Metacello and projects that depend on Glamour that I could not quite fully understand yet and I am looking at it since a month. Dale, I need your help, but I will follow up on this :).
At the same time, I can reliably load the code using this script from a fresh Pharo image and the latest VM:
Gofer it smalltalkhubUser: 'Pharo' project: 'Bloc'; configuration; loadDevelopment.
Can you please try this one?
Cheers, Doru
On Nov 6, 2016, at 11:24 AM, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr> wrote:
I got to the ci and I click on the image and download and drop it on my vm=> crash. Why doing a video?
open a shell
wget -O - http://get.pharo.org/60+vm | bash ./pharo Pharo.image config http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Bloc/main ConfigurationOfBloc --install=development
And it fails loading taskit.
Stef
Le 6/11/16 à 11:01, Aliaksei Syrel a écrit :
The best would be if you could make a video of how you install Bloc and send to Glenn. Because it works for us and for Travis CI. Sound like you face a strange and not so easy to catch issue.
Cheers Alex
On Nov 5, 2016 6:54 PM, "stepharo" <stepharo@free.fr> wrote: why sparta depends on Taskit?
Since I cannot load it I cannot try to understand. I find strange that a graphical canvas depends on a concurrent task management system.
I tried to follow the instruction given by glenn and it failed. So so far I could not see any recent versions of Bloc.
I do not understand why the image produced by the jenkins job crashes my vm.
Stef
wget -O - http://get.pharo.org/60+vm | bash ./pharo Pharo.image config http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Bloc/main ConfigurationOfBloc --install=development
just failed yesterday for me.
-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com
"What we can governs what we wish."
-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com
"Not knowing how to do something is not an argument for how it cannot be done."
-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "In a world where everything is moving ever faster, one might have better chances to win by moving slower."
On 6 Nov 2016, at 21:47, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
On Nov 6, 2016, at 9:43 PM, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr> wrote:
I tried to open the image that glenn gave me and I can browse the code (I got an FFI problem due to the fact that the lib is not present).
I tried and I could open the image from the ci with the vm glenn sent me.
So I will update my vm.
Thanks!
So, the default Pharo VM does not have the Moz2D plugin, and likely that is what Glenn gave you. Could you try with that VM to run 2 examples? I still have a funky issue with my machine that I can only run one example, and then I get a black screen for the second one.
why do you need a plugin and not just a regular library? Esteban
Cheers, Doru
Stef
Le 6/11/16 à 20:19, Tudor Girba a écrit :
Hi,
It does not work to run the Bloc examples with the regular VM, but it does work to browse the code. Stef is saying that he cannot browse code in the Bloc image.
This is a significant problem, but I just do not see why this is so. So, it would be very useful for us to learn where this problem could come from.
Doru
On Nov 6, 2016, at 7:01 PM, Aliaksei Syrel <alex.syrel@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
Just taking Bloc image from CI does not work. Don't forget that you need Sparta plugin (libMoz2D.dylib/DLL/so). I didn't find a way how to ship plugin with image, sorry...
It can be downloaded from bintray https://bintray.com/syrel/Moz2D/libMoz2D.
Cheers Alex
On Nov 6, 2016 4:58 PM, "Tudor Girba" <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote: Hi,
I think there are a couple of thinks that are mixed up.
First, the image from CI: - download the latest image built on October 12 on Jenkins: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/Bloc/PHARO=60,VERSION=development... - run it either with the stable of the latest VM ==> you should get no crash when opening the image (I just checked again)
The code loading is a bit strange. I just tried and I do now know why this does not work from the command line on Mac. For me it somehow hanged while loading PetitCSS. There is something strange with Metacello and projects that depend on Glamour that I could not quite fully understand yet and I am looking at it since a month. Dale, I need your help, but I will follow up on this :).
At the same time, I can reliably load the code using this script from a fresh Pharo image and the latest VM:
Gofer it smalltalkhubUser: 'Pharo' project: 'Bloc'; configuration; loadDevelopment.
Can you please try this one?
Cheers, Doru
On Nov 6, 2016, at 11:24 AM, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr> wrote:
I got to the ci and I click on the image and download and drop it on my vm=> crash. Why doing a video?
open a shell
wget -O - http://get.pharo.org/60+vm | bash ./pharo Pharo.image config http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Bloc/main ConfigurationOfBloc --install=development
And it fails loading taskit.
Stef
Le 6/11/16 à 11:01, Aliaksei Syrel a écrit :
The best would be if you could make a video of how you install Bloc and send to Glenn. Because it works for us and for Travis CI. Sound like you face a strange and not so easy to catch issue.
Cheers Alex
On Nov 5, 2016 6:54 PM, "stepharo" <stepharo@free.fr> wrote: why sparta depends on Taskit?
Since I cannot load it I cannot try to understand. I find strange that a graphical canvas depends on a concurrent task management system.
I tried to follow the instruction given by glenn and it failed. So so far I could not see any recent versions of Bloc.
I do not understand why the image produced by the jenkins job crashes my vm.
Stef
wget -O - http://get.pharo.org/60+vm | bash ./pharo Pharo.image config http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Bloc/main ConfigurationOfBloc --install=development
just failed yesterday for me.
-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com
"What we can governs what we wish."
-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com
"Not knowing how to do something is not an argument for how it cannot be done."
-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com
"In a world where everything is moving ever faster, one might have better chances to win by moving slower."
Hi It is a library :) Even that there is an important difference between plugin and library we always refer to library in this thread. Cheers Alex On Nov 6, 2016 22:31, "Esteban Lorenzano" <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
On 6 Nov 2016, at 21:47, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
On Nov 6, 2016, at 9:43 PM, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr> wrote:
I tried to open the image that glenn gave me and I can browse the code (I got an FFI problem due to the fact that the lib is not present).
I tried and I could open the image from the ci with the vm glenn sent me.
So I will update my vm.
Thanks!
So, the default Pharo VM does not have the Moz2D plugin, and likely that is what Glenn gave you. Could you try with that VM to run 2 examples? I still have a funky issue with my machine that I can only run one example, and then I get a black screen for the second one.
why do you need a plugin and not just a regular library?
Esteban
Cheers, Doru
Stef
Le 6/11/16 à 20:19, Tudor Girba a écrit :
Hi,
It does not work to run the Bloc examples with the regular VM, but it
does work to browse the code. Stef is saying that he cannot browse code in the Bloc image.
This is a significant problem, but I just do not see why this is so.
So, it would be very useful for us to learn where this problem could come from.
Doru
On Nov 6, 2016, at 7:01 PM, Aliaksei Syrel <alex.syrel@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi
Just taking Bloc image from CI does not work. Don't forget that you
need Sparta plugin (libMoz2D.dylib/DLL/so). I didn't find a way how to ship plugin with image, sorry...
It can be downloaded from bintray https://bintray.com/syrel/
Moz2D/libMoz2D.
Cheers Alex
On Nov 6, 2016 4:58 PM, "Tudor Girba" <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote: Hi,
I think there are a couple of thinks that are mixed up.
First, the image from CI: - download the latest image built on October 12 on Jenkins: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/Bloc/PHARO=
60,VERSION=development,VM=vm/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/Bloc.zip
- run it either with the stable of the latest VM ==> you should get no crash when opening the image (I just checked again)
The code loading is a bit strange. I just tried and I do now know why this does not work from the command line on Mac. For me it somehow hanged while loading PetitCSS. There is something strange with Metacello and projects that depend on Glamour that I could not quite fully understand yet and I am looking at it since a month. Dale, I need your help, but I will follow up on this :).
At the same time, I can reliably load the code using this script from a fresh Pharo image and the latest VM:
Gofer it smalltalkhubUser: 'Pharo' project: 'Bloc'; configuration; loadDevelopment.
Can you please try this one?
Cheers, Doru
On Nov 6, 2016, at 11:24 AM, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr> wrote:
I got to the ci and I click on the image and download and drop it on my vm=> crash. Why doing a video?
open a shell
wget -O - http://get.pharo.org/60+vm | bash ./pharo Pharo.image config http://www.smalltalkhub.com/ mc/Pharo/Bloc/main ConfigurationOfBloc --install=development
And it fails loading taskit.
Stef
Le 6/11/16 à 11:01, Aliaksei Syrel a écrit :
The best would be if you could make a video of how you install Bloc and send to Glenn. Because it works for us and for Travis CI. Sound like you face a strange and not so easy to catch issue.
Cheers Alex
On Nov 5, 2016 6:54 PM, "stepharo" <stepharo@free.fr> wrote: why sparta depends on Taskit?
Since I cannot load it I cannot try to understand. I find strange that a graphical canvas depends on a concurrent task management system.
I tried to follow the instruction given by glenn and it failed. So so far I could not see any recent versions of Bloc.
I do not understand why the image produced by the jenkins job crashes my vm.
Stef
wget -O - http://get.pharo.org/60+vm | bash ./pharo Pharo.image config http://www.smalltalkhub.com/ mc/Pharo/Bloc/main ConfigurationOfBloc --install=development
just failed yesterday for me.
-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com
"What we can governs what we wish."
-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com
"Not knowing how to do something is not an argument for how it cannot be done."
-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com
"In a world where everything is moving ever faster, one might have better chances to win by moving slower."
On 7 Nov 2016, at 07:41, Aliaksei Syrel <alex.syrel@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
It is a library :) Even that there is an important difference between plugin and library we always refer to library in this thread.
I was thinking that but then Doru mentioned âMoz2D pluginâ and I got confused :) Esteban
Cheers Alex
On Nov 6, 2016 22:31, "Esteban Lorenzano" <estebanlm@gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> wrote:
On 6 Nov 2016, at 21:47, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com <mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com>> wrote:
Hi,
On Nov 6, 2016, at 9:43 PM, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> wrote:
I tried to open the image that glenn gave me and I can browse the code (I got an FFI problem due to the fact that the lib is not present).
I tried and I could open the image from the ci with the vm glenn sent me.
So I will update my vm.
Thanks!
So, the default Pharo VM does not have the Moz2D plugin, and likely that is what Glenn gave you. Could you try with that VM to run 2 examples? I still have a funky issue with my machine that I can only run one example, and then I get a black screen for the second one.
why do you need a plugin and not just a regular library?
Esteban
Cheers, Doru
Stef
Le 6/11/16 à 20:19, Tudor Girba a écrit :
Hi,
It does not work to run the Bloc examples with the regular VM, but it does work to browse the code. Stef is saying that he cannot browse code in the Bloc image.
This is a significant problem, but I just do not see why this is so. So, it would be very useful for us to learn where this problem could come from.
Doru
On Nov 6, 2016, at 7:01 PM, Aliaksei Syrel <alex.syrel@gmail.com <mailto:alex.syrel@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi
Just taking Bloc image from CI does not work. Don't forget that you need Sparta plugin (libMoz2D.dylib/DLL/so). I didn't find a way how to ship plugin with image, sorry...
It can be downloaded from bintray https://bintray.com/syrel/Moz2D/libMoz2D <https://bintray.com/syrel/Moz2D/libMoz2D>.
Cheers Alex
On Nov 6, 2016 4:58 PM, "Tudor Girba" <tudor@tudorgirba.com <mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com>> wrote: Hi,
I think there are a couple of thinks that are mixed up.
First, the image from CI: - download the latest image built on October 12 on Jenkins: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/Bloc/PHARO=60,VERSION=development... <https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/Bloc/PHARO=60,VERSION=development...> - run it either with the stable of the latest VM ==> you should get no crash when opening the image (I just checked again)
The code loading is a bit strange. I just tried and I do now know why this does not work from the command line on Mac. For me it somehow hanged while loading PetitCSS. There is something strange with Metacello and projects that depend on Glamour that I could not quite fully understand yet and I am looking at it since a month. Dale, I need your help, but I will follow up on this :).
At the same time, I can reliably load the code using this script from a fresh Pharo image and the latest VM:
Gofer it smalltalkhubUser: 'Pharo' project: 'Bloc'; configuration; loadDevelopment.
Can you please try this one?
Cheers, Doru
On Nov 6, 2016, at 11:24 AM, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> wrote:
I got to the ci and I click on the image and download and drop it on my vm=> crash. Why doing a video?
open a shell
wget -O - http://get.pharo.org/60+vm <http://get.pharo.org/60+vm> | bash ./pharo Pharo.image config http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Bloc/main <http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Bloc/main> ConfigurationOfBloc --install=development
And it fails loading taskit.
Stef
Le 6/11/16 à 11:01, Aliaksei Syrel a écrit :
The best would be if you could make a video of how you install Bloc and send to Glenn. Because it works for us and for Travis CI. Sound like you face a strange and not so easy to catch issue.
Cheers Alex
On Nov 5, 2016 6:54 PM, "stepharo" <stepharo@free.fr <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> wrote: why sparta depends on Taskit?
Since I cannot load it I cannot try to understand. I find strange that a graphical canvas depends on a concurrent task management system.
I tried to follow the instruction given by glenn and it failed. So so far I could not see any recent versions of Bloc.
I do not understand why the image produced by the jenkins job crashes my vm.
Stef
wget -O - http://get.pharo.org/60+vm <http://get.pharo.org/60+vm> | bash ./pharo Pharo.image config http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Bloc/main <http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Bloc/main> ConfigurationOfBloc --install=development
just failed yesterday for me.
-- www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com/> www.feenk.com <http://www.feenk.com/>
"What we can governs what we wish."
-- www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com/> www.feenk.com <http://www.feenk.com/>
"Not knowing how to do something is not an argument for how it cannot be done."
-- www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com/> www.feenk.com <http://www.feenk.com/>
"In a world where everything is moving ever faster, one might have better chances to win by moving slower."
Hi,
On Nov 7, 2016, at 8:51 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
On 7 Nov 2016, at 07:41, Aliaksei Syrel <alex.syrel@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
It is a library :) Even that there is an important difference between plugin and library we always refer to library in this thread.
I was thinking that but then Doru mentioned âMoz2D pluginâ and I got confused :)
I am a bit at a loss with the naming given that libMoz2D.dylib library lies in the Plugins folder of the VM :). But, the good thing is that we talk about the same thing :). Cheers, Doru
Esteban
Cheers Alex
On Nov 6, 2016 22:31, "Esteban Lorenzano" <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
On 6 Nov 2016, at 21:47, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
On Nov 6, 2016, at 9:43 PM, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr> wrote:
I tried to open the image that glenn gave me and I can browse the code (I got an FFI problem due to the fact that the lib is not present).
I tried and I could open the image from the ci with the vm glenn sent me.
So I will update my vm.
Thanks!
So, the default Pharo VM does not have the Moz2D plugin, and likely that is what Glenn gave you. Could you try with that VM to run 2 examples? I still have a funky issue with my machine that I can only run one example, and then I get a black screen for the second one.
why do you need a plugin and not just a regular library?
Esteban
Cheers, Doru
Stef
Le 6/11/16 à 20:19, Tudor Girba a écrit :
Hi,
It does not work to run the Bloc examples with the regular VM, but it does work to browse the code. Stef is saying that he cannot browse code in the Bloc image.
This is a significant problem, but I just do not see why this is so. So, it would be very useful for us to learn where this problem could come from.
Doru
On Nov 6, 2016, at 7:01 PM, Aliaksei Syrel <alex.syrel@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
Just taking Bloc image from CI does not work. Don't forget that you need Sparta plugin (libMoz2D.dylib/DLL/so). I didn't find a way how to ship plugin with image, sorry...
It can be downloaded from bintray https://bintray.com/syrel/Moz2D/libMoz2D.
Cheers Alex
On Nov 6, 2016 4:58 PM, "Tudor Girba" <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote: Hi,
I think there are a couple of thinks that are mixed up.
First, the image from CI: - download the latest image built on October 12 on Jenkins: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/Bloc/PHARO=60,VERSION=development... - run it either with the stable of the latest VM ==> you should get no crash when opening the image (I just checked again)
The code loading is a bit strange. I just tried and I do now know why this does not work from the command line on Mac. For me it somehow hanged while loading PetitCSS. There is something strange with Metacello and projects that depend on Glamour that I could not quite fully understand yet and I am looking at it since a month. Dale, I need your help, but I will follow up on this :).
At the same time, I can reliably load the code using this script from a fresh Pharo image and the latest VM:
Gofer it smalltalkhubUser: 'Pharo' project: 'Bloc'; configuration; loadDevelopment.
Can you please try this one?
Cheers, Doru
On Nov 6, 2016, at 11:24 AM, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr> wrote:
I got to the ci and I click on the image and download and drop it on my vm=> crash. Why doing a video?
open a shell
wget -O - http://get.pharo.org/60+vm | bash ./pharo Pharo.image config http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Bloc/main ConfigurationOfBloc --install=development
And it fails loading taskit.
Stef
Le 6/11/16 à 11:01, Aliaksei Syrel a écrit :
The best would be if you could make a video of how you install Bloc and send to Glenn. Because it works for us and for Travis CI. Sound like you face a strange and not so easy to catch issue.
Cheers Alex
On Nov 5, 2016 6:54 PM, "stepharo" <stepharo@free.fr> wrote: why sparta depends on Taskit?
Since I cannot load it I cannot try to understand. I find strange that a graphical canvas depends on a concurrent task management system.
I tried to follow the instruction given by glenn and it failed. So so far I could not see any recent versions of Bloc.
I do not understand why the image produced by the jenkins job crashes my vm.
Stef
wget -O - http://get.pharo.org/60+vm | bash ./pharo Pharo.image config http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Bloc/main ConfigurationOfBloc --install=development
just failed yesterday for me.
-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com
"What we can governs what we wish."
-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com
"Not knowing how to do something is not an argument for how it cannot be done."
-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com
"In a world where everything is moving ever faster, one might have better chances to win by moving slower."
-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "Being happy is a matter of choice."
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