[Pharo-project] about idiots :)
Hi marcus Try to stop thinking that making errors is bad. This is a christian ideology that may block your way of looking at the world in a open way. You know like "good and bad". (Watch for example Spirit away for example I'm always fascinated by the fact that we are looking for who are the good and bad). Oscar would say "live and learn". Making error is part of life. Period! Being stupid is when - you repeat errors without learning from them. - if you would not take action after. So introducing a bug is NOT A PROBLEM and nobody is stupid. We are dealing with a really complex program. We will do mistakes, many in fact. We may break the system and put it on its knees. But we will learn and fix or rollback. Easy in computer world we clone duplicate. Imagine it you would be a drawer on expensive paper with ink that you cannot erase!! Simple. So marcus dont be stupid to think that people making mistakes are idiots. They are not! You and me are far from stupid and we will do mistakes. For sure and we will learn from them. Pharo is the proof of it :) So do not let you fun gets spoiled by this oversimplistic view on the world. Stef PS: bookmark this mail because this is the last one on that topics.! When you feel idiots read it. PSPS: one young guy at IBM made IBM lost 1 Millions dollars, so he can to see his boss to resign. The boss said no way, we reject this, we invested on you 1 Million dollars. Nice!
Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Hi marcus
Try to stop thinking that making errors is bad. This is a christian ideology that may block your way of looking at the world in a open way. Not true at all. It might be a catholic ideology, but its not christian.
Christianity is about love, faith, and redemption. Not fear, fear is the opposite of faith. The whole point of christianity is to remove fear from the equation, even the ultimate fear, fear of death. If you are a parent, would you want to provide a safe space to learn and grow, or to have your kids live in fear of making mistakes. I have counselled many perfectionists, and those who have suffered at the hands of same, over the past few years, and God, being a father, always tells them that it is ok to make mistakes, and not to be afraid. He is big enough to cover us and help us to work through the consequences of our mistakes should they occur. Given that emotional support, it is ok to make mistakes.
So do not let you fun gets spoiled by this oversimplistic view on the world.
Agreed one would not want to oversimplify by blaming some "ideology" for all our problems. Keith
Try to stop thinking that making errors is bad. This is a christian ideology that may block your way of looking at the world in a open way. Not true at all. It might be a catholic ideology, but its not christian.
Christianity is about love, faith, and redemption. Not fear, fear is the opposite of faith. The whole point of christianity is to remove fear from the equation, even the ultimate fear, fear of death.
You mean except the fear of eternal damnation in hell, the fear of an all knowing God who spies on you constantly knowing everything you do and promising you will be held accountable for it all someday? No, I do believe Christianity is all about the fear! It has its virtues as well, but lets not deny that fear is a major component of Christianity. Of course, this has nothing to do with Pharo, but happy to take this offline!
Keith
Ramon
On Oct 7, 2008, at 8:10 PM, Keith Hodges wrote:
Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Hi marcus
Try to stop thinking that making errors is bad. This is a christian ideology that may block your way of looking at the world in a open way. Not true at all. It might be a catholic ideology, but its not christian.
Christianity is about love, faith, and redemption. Not fear, fear is the opposite of faith. The whole point of christianity is to remove fear from the equation, even the ultimate fear, fear of death.
Ok sorry. catholic then :)
If you are a parent, would you want to provide a safe space to learn and grow, or to have your kids live in fear of making mistakes.
I have counselled many perfectionists, and those who have suffered at the hands of same, over the past few years, and God, being a father, always tells them that it is ok to make mistakes, and not to be afraid. He is big enough to cover us and help us to work through the consequences of our mistakes should they occur. Given that emotional support, it is ok to make mistakes.
So do not let you fun gets spoiled by this oversimplistic view on the world.
Agreed one would not want to oversimplify by blaming some "ideology" for all our problems.
Keith
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
participants (3)
-
Keith Hodges -
Ramon Leon -
Stéphane Ducasse