Just to let you guys know, A while back I did the work of moving Rio over to use classes File and Directory, and String>>asFile and String>>AsDirectory. I am tempted to leave it that way for now (i dont have time to do otherwise for a bit) since I do want to propose it as a standard thing that could be in Squeak/Pharo/Whatever. Code size stats: self compiledSize: 'File-Kernel'. 6906 (for Kernel Images) self compiledSize: 'File-Base'. 8215 (includes some ftp remote directory support) self compiledSize: 'Files-Directories'. 11471 self compiledSize: 'FileMan-Core'. 7098 self compiledSize: 'Network-RemoteDirectory'. 21481 regards Keith