Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 4 Beta, first impressions
Hi, Thanks for the feedback. Given that all listed points are negative, does it mean that there was nothing positive about Pharo 4? :) Cheers, Doru On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Benoit St-Jean via Pharo-dev < pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> wrote:
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Benoit St-Jean <bstjean@yahoo.com> To: Pharo Development List <pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> Cc: Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2015 12:08:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Pharo 4 Beta, first impressions 3 quick things :
1) How can I get the Windows theme (W2K) that was available in Pharo 3 (it's no longer there in Pharo 4.0 Beta). Having the close, maximize & minimize buttons to the left of every window is VERY annoying for Windows users!
2) Am I the only one annoyed by the fact that the Collection class still holds on to 2 class variables (one of them being an instance of Random, the other a mutex) for the sole purpose of accommodating the #atRandom & #atRandom: methods ? Even worse, the Integer class' implementation of #atRandom references the Collection class to use that random instance! In other words, Integer>>#atRandom --> Collection>>#randomForPicking --> Random ! I've always been a fan of the "mind your own business" approach. Wouldn't it make a lot more sense to have the Random class provide a default instance (a singleton) whenever other classes need such an object instead of crippling the code with class variables and singleton instance all over the place?
3) I'm having a few "Could not find disk drive" errors on Windows XP ( never had that error with Pharo 3 and I've been using it every day since it came out). Am I the only one? I ran all SUnit tests and the VM crashed "real bad". Do you guys need logs/dumps/errors on the console ?
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To the contrary! It's way faster and shorter to list what annoys me about Pharo 4.0 than write a novel on all its qualities! ;)  ----------------- Benoit St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean Twitter: @BenLeChialeux Pinterest: benoitstjean IRC: lamneth Blogue: endormitoire.wordpress.com "A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero". (A. Einstein) From: Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> To: Benoit St-Jean <bstjean@yahoo.com>; Pharo Development List <pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 8:21 AM Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 4 Beta, first impressions Hi, Thanks for the feedback. Given that all listed points are negative, does it mean that there was nothing positive about Pharo 4? :) Cheers,Doru On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Benoit St-Jean via Pharo-dev <pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> wrote: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Benoit St-Jean <bstjean@yahoo.com> To: Pharo Development List <pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> Cc: Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2015 12:08:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Pharo 4 Beta, first impressions 3 quick things : 1) How can I get the Windows theme (W2K) that was available in Pharo 3 (it's no longer there in Pharo 4.0 Beta). Having the close, maximize & minimize buttons to the left of every window is VERY annoying for Windows users! 2) Am I the only one annoyed by the fact that the Collection class still holds on to 2 class variables (one of them being an instance of Random, the other a mutex) for the sole purpose of accommodating the #atRandom & #atRandom: methods ? Even worse, the Integer class' implementation of #atRandom references the Collection class to use that random instance! In other words, Integer>>#atRandom --> Collection>>#randomForPicking --> Random ! I've always been a fan of the "mind your own business" approach. Wouldn't it make a lot more sense to have the Random class provide a default instance (a singleton) whenever other classes need such an object instead of crippling the code with class variables and singleton instance all over the place? 3) I'm having a few "Could not find disk drive" errors on Windows XP ( never had that error with Pharo 3 and I've been using it every day since it came out). Am I the only one? I ran all SUnit tests and the VM crashed "real bad". Do you guys need logs/dumps/errors on the console ? ----------------- Benoit St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean Twitter: @BenLeChialeux Pinterest: benoitstjean IRC: lamneth Blogue: endormitoire.wordpress.com "A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero". (A. Einstein) -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"
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