I integrated Phil's fixes. You can edit directly the wiki page by clicking on the top right corner button 'Edit' ;-). Thanks Serge Stinckwich for your contribution.

The English wiki page should now be refactored and corrected too. You could put back some data from the previous page but as it was almost only about Squeak/Pharo difference or license issues ...

Some work is needed for the Spanish wiki pages. Does anyone speaking Spanish can do something about it ? Actually English and Spanish are the two most spoken language for international work so it would be nice to have these two pages looking good.

To go further we would need a brainstorming on 'Why Pharo is so great ?'. It could also be used for the next Pharo-project website. Basically, what to tell to a newcomer that has from 1 to 8 years of java experience so he would be impressed by Pharo capabilities and would like to work with Pharo. To me, the main point is the efficient debugger that permit the edit and continue development cycle. I added it to the wiki. What else ? It would be nice to have examples, videos or tutorials for these aspects to show to newcomers.

And don't tell me story about Squeak compared to Pharo newcomers don't know both of them.

Regards


2013/3/29 Frank Shearar <frank.shearar@gmail.com>
On 29 March 2013 15:30, Cl�ment Bera <bera.clement@gmail.com> wrote:
> Interesting, this English Pharo wiki page.
>
> I quote : 'Pharo is now organized as a benevolent dictatorship of the
> community members who previously felt that they did not have enough
> influence. The members of the Pharo board are Marcus Denker, St�phane
> Ducasse, and Sven Van Caekenberghe.'.
>
> I'm going to edit it a little to introduce Pharo in the page instead of
> having a bunch of critics against some people of the community.


I don't think the author meant anything negative by the term
"benevolent dictatorship". There are quite a few communities who
operate that way - Python, Clojure and Linux spring to mind.

frank

> Regards,
>
>
> 2013/3/28 Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich@gmail.com>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Cl�ment Bera <bera.clement@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I tried to write some more stuff on the French Pharo wiki page :
>> > http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharo .
>> >
>> > I moved all the reference to history (birth of smalltalk, relation with
>> > companies, forking) in the history section. I tried to focus the page on
>> > How
>> > to use Pharo and Who uses Pharo. I would like the add a part 'Why Pharo
>> > is
>> > so great' with all its nice features, which are kind of already in the
>> > introduction of the page but I don't know how to present it well and
>> > what to
>> > focus on. Right now it is more like 'It is smalltalk so it is great' but
>> > not
>> > 'This is Pharo and these are the reasons why it is great' like they have
>> > on
>> > Amber web page.
>> >
>> > Tell me if you like the way I made the French Pharo wiki page I will
>> > translate it in English.
>> >
>> > If you have somewhere a list of great features of Pharo to inspire me so
>> > I
>> > can write it down in a section.
>> >
>> > Some more reference on how to learn Smalltalk would be nice too (Adding
>> > to
>> > Pharo by example 1 & 2)
>>
>> Thank you Clement for your work. I agree with you that the Pharo
>> should be redesign massively ;-)
>>
>> Maybe we should talk on the french Smalltalk mailing-list how we
>> redesign the page ?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> --
>> Serge Stinckwich
>> UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC)
>> Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk
>> http://doesnotunderstand.org/
>>
>
>
>
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