> Lukas
>
> On Thursday, November 26, 2009, Schwab,Wilhelm K <
bschwab@anest.ufl.edu> wrote:
>> Stef,
>>
>> I have a "slow" machine that stands ready to help with numbers any time; it is semi-retired now, running Ubuntu 9.04. �It might be a good ideas to dual-boot it, but I find it challenging to work up the motivation to assault it with a Windows CD, and I have a similar era machine running win2k.
>>
>> My sense is that Pharo is slower than Squeak, and I am suspicious that the Linux vm is not as efficient as it could be. �I forget wheher I saw this only on Linux, but somewhere I reported a long-sourced method that I saw draw in monochrome and AGAIN in color. �Nothing against Shout (as the self-apppointed comment pedant, I **really** appreciate syntax highlighting), there might be some room for efficiency by skipping the monochrom pass.
>>
>> Resizing on Linux turns the main window black. �It might make more sense to invalidate and draw once after the sizing is complete??
>>
>> I have long heard people claim that Linux is faster than Windows, but I was not convinced. �Having recently purchased a new machine and watched it labor under the weight of Vista long enough to see for myself what all the stench was about, I think I get it. �Current Linux distributions with the customary graphical largese are not happy on 7+ year old machines that handily run Win2k. �However, a new box that just barely gets by under Windows will be relatively quick running Linux.
>>
>> I forget who said it: "software is getting slow faster than hardware is getting fast."
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:
pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:
pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of St�phane Ducasse
>> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 5:02 PM
>> To: neil butterworth
>> Cc: Pharo Development
>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] about Pharo
>>
>> Thanks for your reply :)
>>
>>>> what you report is strange.
>>>> Can you let us know:
>>>
>>>> � � � �- vm
>>>
>>> The Pharo VM is the current (as of a couple of days ago) download from
>>> the Pharo Homepage - Squeak 3.11.4 (beta).
>>>
>>>> � � � �- OS
>>>
>>> Win2K SP4
>>>
>>>> � � � �- image version
>>>
>>> Once again, a very recent download -
>>> pharo1.0-10493-rc1dev09.11.2.image
>>>
>>>> � � � �- your display depth
>>>
>>> True Color 24 bit
>>
>> I have
>> � � � �Display depth -> 32
>>
>> then 24 looks strange to me.
>>
>> depth: bitsPerPixel
>> � � � �(bitsPerPixel > 32 or:
>> � � � � � � � �[(bitsPerPixel bitAnd: bitsPerPixel-1) ~= 0])
>> � � � � � � � �ifTrue: [self halt: 'bitsPerPixel must be 1, 2, 4, 8, 16 or 32'].
>> � � � �depth := bitsPerPixel
>>
>> Can you type
>> � � � �Display depth
>>
>> � � � �and Display depth: 32 to see if this change something?
>>
>>>> Because people are using pharo on production and we got an increase
>>>> of 15% of Morphic in pharo 1.1 so I have some doubts.
>>>
>>> It is very definitely much slower than Squeak on my system. This is an
>>> old laptop 900MHz P3, but it has no problems at all running Squeak.
>>
>> We should keep an old machine around to test it.
>> this is strange.
>> Because the Ob2Browser is slow because it displays package and getting package information is slow.
>> Which browser are you using
>> Can you give a try to change it and use the system browser (to change click on the right icon on the window ... Choose new default menu)
>>
>> Can you change the theme?
>> using the preference pane?
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Stef
>>
>>>
>>> Neil Butterworth
>>
>>
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