On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre@bergel.eu> wrote:
Looks good!
You haven't mentioned unloading. This is an important topic in my
opinion.


Yes, that's true. I am 100% agree. However, these were my little next steps for the Metacello configurations for Pharo.
Regarding the unload, I really don't know who should provide that, Metacello ? Monticello ? Pharo it self?
Does someone know about this?� The main problem are the overrides� because you should go back to anothe version, and I don't know if you have it or you loose it.

Thanks

Mariano
Alexandre

On 29 Dec 2009, at 15:11, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:

> Hi folks. I just wanted to write down my ideas of the Metacello
> configurations for our Pharo Images. The idea is to use Metacello to
> manage the dependencies and version of the packages, have a history
> of the releases and be more modular. You will be able to take a core
> image and easily load what you want. �We will have a
> ConfigurationOfPharo and that's what you will probably use. However,
> this conf depends and delegates to another configurations (the conf
> of each package). So, the first step is to make each little conf to
> work, and then, we focus in the pharo one.
>
> So....lists of points:
>
> �1) I have been writing several configurations so far. One
> configuration per external project that is loaded in Pharo Dev
> images. Examples: Shout, OCompletion, RefactoringBrowser,
> OmniBroswer, O2, etc..
> The idea is to implement and be sure each of this conf is working
> before doing the ConfigurationOfPharo.
>
> 2) All configurations will be published here: �http://www.squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository
> This repository is like the ibiblio for maven, or the Universe for
> the apt-get, or similar. In a near future we will have tools that
> work with this (Esteban Lorenzano is working in Loader for example).
>
> 3) Each configuration must be PERFECTLY loaded in a Pharo Core image
> without doing or installing nothing. To do this, I have to declare
> properly the dependencies.
> This mean, that you will be able to take a core image load the
> ConfigurationOfShout for exameple, or OCompletion and you will be
> able to load it. Metacello will take care of all the dependencies.
> You will also be able to install part of the project and not all
> (for example, only core or core + tests, or whatever).
>
> 4) I started with the Dev packages. We will do this test first to
> see if Metacello really help us in our project. If this goes well,
> then, in a second step, we will take care about the Web images.
>
> 5) I started with the 1.0 Dev packages. 1.1 is unestable and several
> external packages even don't load in it. So, will do 1.1 in a second
> step.
>
> 6) As there were no versions of Metacello in all the external
> projects, I started with 1.0 in ALL. Shout 1.0, OCompletion 1.0, RB
> 1.0, etc. This has nothing to do with Pharo 1.0. They are just the
> version number. And after this is released, we really need PLEASE,
> that the maintainers of those packages also creates the following
> versions for them.
>
> 7) I took as a base, the versions of the 10496 image. I have been
> using this image since in was release, 12 hours a day, and seems to
> be very stable to me. I mean, the version 1.0 of
> ConfigurationOfPharo will be like the 10496 image. When everything
> is done and working, create a new image will be very easy.
>
> 8) We need some features from Metacello which are in the todo list.
> So, we will have to wait a bit for them.
>
> OK, that's all. What do you think?
>
> Soon I will send an email for the configurations of all projects and
> will ask for help and feedback from their developers.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mariano
>
>
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