Em 24/11/2010 09:39, Janko Miv��ek < janko.mivsek@eranova.si > escreveu:
I can agree with that, giving the past history of Smalltalk plugins.
> I'm pretty sure that any plugin based solution will have a dead-end,
> as ��all ��Smalltalk plugins ��so ��far had. ��There ��are ��just too ��many
> browsers ��to ��support ��out ��there. ��FireFox, ��IE, ��Safari, ��Android,
> Symbian, ��... We ��are too ��small community ��to afford ��maintaining a
> plugin on so many different browsers.
Besides, we've to accept a simple fact of life: for the end user there
is not any apparent benefit of such additional plugin. Or, in other words:
There is no compelling reason for an end user feel the need of an
additional piece of SW to be installed in his/her computer, even harder
if in a corporative environment where you have to get permits from
sysadmins, etc.
Except if this technology has something different from present state of
> ��Therefore I see ��the only viable long-term solution ��a Smalltalk on
> top ��of ��JavaScript ��VM. ��Yes, ��I ��know, ��this ��is ��a ��very ��limited
> environment for Smalltalk ��standards, but it is the ��least evil from
> all choices we have.
art, this new layer (a.k.a. indirection) will have the single effect of
bringing the smalltalk code to appear slower than 'native' javascript,
without any benefit to the end user.
I understand these are a different beast: they 'translate' Smalltalk code
> ��We actually have some effords done or underway already, like ST2JS,
into 'equivalent' javascript to be fed to the browsers.
> Clamato,
This is an hybrid, but basically tries to emulate some 'dialect' of Smalltalk
in javascript. ��In the end, you need to master a nth language which is not
nor javascript nor smalltalk anymore. ��Again, if the advantages of such
approach are quickly accrued the additional effort to do so will deter
the widespread of the technology.
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my 0.019999....
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Cesar Rabak