Be aware (Carla) you don't need to be a letter...it can be the letter signed, scanned and sent by email. For those who live far away from France it is easier and cheaper ;)

Mariano

ps: don't tell my wife I am here hahahah

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 10:08 AM, St�phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:

On Apr 16, 2010, at 12:02 AM, Germ�n Arduino wrote:

> The letter is on the way.
>
> A first question, to help with unstable I should use it as it comes
> (with no added packages) or I can install somethings to make the
> environment more comfortable (as shout for example) ?

the way you want but if you load packages you should pay attention that you changes do not impact them by accident.
Ideally we would like to have metacello to manage core and the process would be

� � � �- take latest core
� � � �- update
� � � � � � � �-> get Pharo with maintained Pharo package: sound
� � � �------------------------------------------------------- this phase should be done for us on a server with a hudson cron like job

� � � �- you change
� � � �- you publish changes
� � � �--------------------------------------------------------
� � � �we take the current unstable core + packages
� � � �- integrate your changes
� � � �-> produce new version of packages + new metacello configuration

Now since loading code is too slow we have to pay attention and avoid to frantically remove packages from the image
because they can desync too easily when we do system wide changes.

So for simple things just take the latest unstable and publish changes




> Germ�n.
>
> 2010/4/15 St�phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>:
>> Thanks!
>> As I said, 30 min are enough
>> Stef
>>
>> On Apr 15, 2010, at 9:25 PM, Germ�n Arduino wrote:
>>
>>> ok, my signed agreement is leaving today for France.
>>>
>>> I will try to start understanding how is the contribution process in
>>> Pharo and playing a bit with unstable.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately I've very little free time, but still, will try to help.
>>>
>>> Cheers.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2010/4/15 St�phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>:
>>>> Hi guys
>>>>
>>>> Let me reiterate it:
>>>>
>>>> � � � �- We need you!
>>>> � � � �- 75 % of the issues on the bug tracker are simple.
>>>> � � � �- BTW how did we learn stuff, by reading code and learning. I'm not smart I'm just a tedious learner
>>>> � � � �I can any opportunity to learn something new.
>>>> � � � �- if you spend 30 min a week, YOU CAN get an IMPACT!
>>>> � � � �- if pharo is important for you then 30 min in a good investment
>>>> � � � �- every single LITTLE bugs fixed and improvement is IMPORTANT
>>>> � � � �- we do not want the final latest coolest superhyper cool and hyper clever fixes!
>>>> � � � �- we accept little improvement
>>>> � � � �- in UNSTABLE we have the right to push not 100% finish code
>>>>
>>>> Now think what YOU can do for pharo. Because Yes YOU can
>>>> � � � �- screencast
>>>> � � � �- checking tests (yesterday I moved CompiledMethodAsStringTest>>testPrint to CompiledMethodTest>>testPrint) Yeah hyper difficult
>>>> � � � �- Class comments: look at the URI class comment
>>>> � � � �- blogging
>>>> � � � �- tweeting
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We should slowly change our process so that Pharo continue to evolve even if we disappear on the moon.
>>>>
>>>> Now I asked marcus to focus on the newcompiler and stop fixing little bugs because we want to make progress on other fronts.
>>>>
>>>> We want newcompiler - �we want the newcompiler - �we want the newcompiler and fixing it and fixing its interface.
>>>> We want Helvetia hooks -We want Helvetia hooks.
>>>> We want a new package object (but I do not find time to code argh).
>>>>
>>>> Stef
>>>>
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