I agree with Igor and want to add, that a newbie will not be disturbed by shortcuts and can use the dialogs. It is the normal way, if you learn a new system, you get to know one thing after the other and someday, you get to know the shortcuts and they help to work faster.

As you can see in the screenshot (left side), the feature is documented.
At the right side you can see, that it is not implemented ;.)

Perhaps it is possible to implement it in one of the next releases?


On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Chris Muller <ma.chris.m@gmail.com> wrote:
>> You should not expect that -- Pharo used to have it but it was removed
>> in favor of a more mainstream editor look-and-feel -- so that it be
>> would more attractive to new users. �Command+J / Control+J are just
>> two of several powerful code-editing capabilities Pharo originally
>> inherited from Squeak, along with my other favorites Command+E =
>> Exchange the last two selections and Command+[, (, {, or | = Surround
>> the highlighted text with that bracket-type pair. �(not sure if those
>> are still there in Pharo).
>
> Now what would be really cool is to have a documentation about all
> those, and make them easily
> discoverable. I worked with Squeak long enough, and didn't saw
> anything close to that.
> I said that it is 'command-g' instead 'command-j' exactly because of
> that, because you never know...
> And for me it was always felt like:
> �- let user discover shortcuts by pressing random key combinations and
> see what happens.
> And then tell me, what are the chances that people will understand
> what exactly cmd-j does without
> reading documentation? In 99% of cases it will be 'oh.. what was just happen' ..
> This is about "more attractive".
> And if you hiding knowledge behind sealed doors, don't be surprised
> that someone will come and build a new library with open doors,
> replacing yours.

You didn't look hard enough -- it's under the "help" menu. �Squeak 3.0
is the earliest I have on my HD but.. yes, it was there then and its
still there now. �Ok, I know you just forgot we miss you too Igor. �;)

I admire Pharo blazing new trails but notice a pattern in some of the
"gold" feedback from Pharo customers which worth taking to heart.
Like:

� � http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2012-May/064702.html

> This is, what i think, happens with shortcuts changes in Pharo, except
> form those which was remapped.
>
>> Pharo favors _familiarity_ for new users somewhat at the cost of
>> productivity for its experienced users. �It somewhat resembles eclipse
>> -- with pop-up dialogs and a seemingly "modal" philosophy. �Squeak, by
>> constrast, has kept pushing the "simple-but-powerful" philosphy of its
>> IDE to near extremes. �While it's less familiar for new uesrs, once
>> learned, general navigation and editing require _far fewer_ gestures.
>>
> Another thing, is that i first time hear that pharo is in favor of
> newcomers at expense of experienced users.
> I am not involved in changes to key bindings / shortcuts, but i doubt
> that people, who doing that, making changes having such strange aim.
> I think they are focused on making it good for newcomers and
> experienced users both. Otherwise i don't see much sense in doing this
> at all, and would be first who will be against it.

Ok, glad to hear that. �I would rather have the best system possible
than one with the most mainstream acceptance.