2010/6/21 Mariano Martinez Peck <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:marianopeck@gmail.com">marianopeck@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">

<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">2010/6/17 laurent laffont <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:laurent.laffont@gmail.com" target="_blank">laurent.laffont@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">


Hi,<div class="im"><div><br></div><div>Autotest is a live testing tool (similar too Ruby Autotest, but the Smalltalk way, more dynamic).</div><div><br></div><div>Autotest automatically runs tests related to the methods you edit. Screencast to see it in action:��<a href="http://lolgzs.free.fr/pharo/autotest3.mpeg" target="_blank">http://lolgzs.free.fr/pharo/autotest3.mpeg</a></div>




<div><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br>Hi Laurent. I have just test it and I really like it. I wasn&#39;t aware at all what a Autotest was (I don&#39;t know Ruby). <br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Cool ! ��Personnally I really like Ruby Autotest and I use a similar script for PHP. I can&#39;t do TDD without it :)</div>

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<div></div><div><div>Autotest uses the following heuritics to find the tests to run:</div><div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">		</span>- if the method is a test, runs it</div><div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">		</span>- it the method is a test setUp or tearDown, run all the tests of the TestCase</div>




<div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">		</span>- else find all senders which are tests in the same package and runs them (it detects different packages that are related, for example ProfStef-Core and ProfStef-Test)</div>




</div><div><br></div></blockquote></div><div><br>maybe a new feature: when modifying a TestResource, run all the tests that references it ?<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Good idea.</div><div>��</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">

<div class="gmail_quote"><div>what happens with subclasses?�� suppose I refactor/modify a subclass, do you also run the tests of the superclasses?<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Now there&#39;s no heuristics on the class level, only method / package. So as long as there&#39;s a sender of the method you edit, tests will run.��You can have a look at AutotestFinder, heuristics protocol.</div>

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��</div><div class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex"><div></div><div><div>To activate the Autotest dashboard<br>��</div></div></blockquote>


<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">		</span>- open the settings browser</div><div>
<span style="white-space:pre-wrap">		</span>- go under System</div>

<div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">		</span>- check &quot;Show Autotest Dashboard&quot; option</div></div><div><br></div></blockquote></div><div><br>Here I am confused. This setting, just enables de dashborad or the run of the tests?�� I guess one thing is to run the tests and another one is to see them in the dashborad. <br>


<br>I would love to be able to enable/disable AutoTest completly. <br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Closing the dashboard disables Autotest completly. AutotestDashboard sets up as a view of its Autotest instance. When you close it garbageCollect to be sure Autotest&gt;&gt;release is called.</div>

<div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br>In addition, I think we can add AutoTest to PharoDev 1.2 images. What you and others think?<br>

</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I would like more feedback. If you use it you notice that your workflow changes because of that instant feedback.</div><div>I&#39;m looking for people who use it on real TDD for real projects (as I&#39;m only pharoing on my freetime). I think it can be a great tool we cannot have in ��standard�� programming languages.</div>

<div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>Laurent</div><div>��</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>��</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">

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<div></div><div>To load it:</div><div><br></div><div><div>Gofer new</div><div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>squeaksource: &#39;Autotest&#39;;</div>

<div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>package: &#39;Autotest&#39;;</div><div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>load</div></div><div><br></div><div>HelpSystem book included.</div>

<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I would like to know what needs enhancements, what to add (and to remove :) and whether you would use it or not (and why).</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for feedback.</div><div><br></div>




<div>Cheers,</div><div><br clear="all">Laurent Laffont<br><br><a href="http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href="http://magaloma.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://magaloma.blogspot.com/</a><br>




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