Hi Sean,
El 6 jun. 2018, a las 22:37, Sean P. DeNigris <sean@clipperadams.com> escribi��:

hernanmd wrote
You can check a project making use of ApplicationSecurity here:
http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~hernan/IGEVET
���it uses Iliad���

I'll check it out. Thanks. Out of curiosity, why Iliad instead of Seaside?
Is Iliad well-supported/maintained?

Of course not :)
We are like 10? in the mailing list, you could say it seems like a dead project, but it performed really well for me (some reasons below).
For people who like to feel always safe, Seaside is the best choice. However at some point after some years I felt Seaside uncomfortable, I read that Iliad picked some of the best features of Seaside and Aida, then wanted to gave a try.

Would that be your
default/recommendation for new web apps?

First of all, I should say I'm not super experienced in web apps. Although I appreciate the big efforts behind Smalltalk web frameworks, I didn���t really like any of them, neither page-centric or programmatic. None of them was easily adapted to the emerging web trends for the last years like the appearance of static site generators, adaptive/responsive design, multiple competing JS libraries, semantic web, mobility, etc. not to mention they lack "standard" built-in features such as caching, template, security frameworks. However I cannot complain, we are a small community doing the best we can, and the alternative of coding in a popular PHP framework would be like going to hell... think about matching "objects" to relational table schemas here (single table inheritance).

I really love the Iliad form validation through Formula (easier than Magritte for me), the free Ajax, the simple routing, and it feels lightweight. However there a lot of things missing in Iliad by now: a Zinc adaptor is missing, better CSS integration, more documentation, examples, updated jQuery, etc. For other classic features, there was an old comparison table for Smalltalk web frameworks, a bit outdated but you could check it:

Cheers,

Hern��n