Hi Torsten,

Thanks for the rant :)

It did not put it as a release yet, because I still wanted people to play with it. Hence the suggested "loadDevelopment".

As for Moose not being in the configuration browser, it is precisely because we could not really release it until now in a reliable fashion that you do not find it there :). Snapshotcello is a little tool to help us bootstrap precisely around this problem.

Cheers,
Doru




On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Torsten Bergmann <astares@gmx.de> wrote:
Tudor wrote:
>You can get the code at:
>Gofer new
> � � smalltalkhubUser: 'girba' project: 'Snapshotcello';
> � � package: 'ConfigurationOfSnapshotcello';
> � � load.
>(Smalltalk globals at: #ConfigurationOfSnapshotcello) loadDevelopment

Sorry about the rant in advance (which is more general and not only specific to snapshotcello), but:

Next time someone wants this (or another) nice little Pharo tool:

�- one has to remember this load script or have to find the announcement mail again
�- one has to a lot of typing the expression or copying to a workspace to load it.

Just with the posted load script he does dont know if Pharo 1.4, 2.0 or 3.0 was used to develop it,
so how does he know the Pharo version to use it without failures? A pharo version where it is not broken.
Maybe the user is still using Pharo 2.0 but maybe the tool requires at least Pharo 3.0 ...

What about a new user who starts tomorrow with Pharo and never read this announcement.
Since he entered the mailinglist very late he missed the mail with the script.
How can he now about this super cool package? Why cant it be more accessible?

I propose: PLEASE define a #stable for the working versions and place an additional copy in:

�- "ss3.gemtalksystems.com/ss/MetaRepoForPharo20" � � � � � � (Pharo 2.0) or
�- "http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/MetaRepoForPharo30/main" (Pharo 3.0)

when you know it runs in the according pharo version. It will then appear in the config browser.

If it is not in the config browser of the current pharo version for easy loading
then it does not really exist. �;)
It only exists for the people who read about it in the mailinglist. Think of a first
time user who downloads Pharo 2.0. He may never stumble over the load script or
the tool in Smalltalkhub.

I know: it may not yet be the best mechanism to provide packages to users (we need more infos
on the configs, hence catalog and automatic verification in the future) - but still it
is better than the "load scripts" and possible confusion.

So please CARE ABOUT YOUR USERS and make your packages available like this so it can
be easily accessible and loadable right from the according image!

Same for Roassal, Moose, ... and all the nice packages that now appear in the
Pharo universe...

Thanks
T.




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