On 3 Aug 2017, at 13:16, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 8:58 AM, Tim Mackinnon <tim@testit.works> wrote:

I���m so close now (bit of a diversion with gitlab yml not liking the eval string) - that did load and it got me really close - I���m just missing FlSerializer now (I have progressed my work to fuel out the context for debugging to S3)��� so looking at the repo, there are quite a few fuel packages - but in a big image I can see that FLSerialiser is in Core - so do I just need core? But then there are a few fuel packages with Core?

The easiest way to understand that is either checking ConfigurationOfFuel directly or some of the related Metacello tool.

Anyway, for this case, I think you need the packages (in this order): FuelPlatform and Fuel. Bug again, Metacello allows some postLoad actions (which we use in Fuel)... so...it's not always easy to load a project without Metacello. 

Sometimes you can print the result of #record:

Metacello new 

configuration: 'Fuel';

smalltalkhubUser: 'Pharo' project: 'Fuel';

version: #stable;

record: #('Core').

->

"linear load : 

linear load : 2.1.10 [ConfigurationOfFuel]

linear load : baseline [ConfigurationOfFuelPlatform]

load : FuelPlatform-Core

load : FuelPlatform-Pharo-Core

load : FuelPlatform-Pharo-06"

------

Anyway.... I guess I would try to load these packages (in this order):

FuelPlatform-Core

FuelPlatform-Pharo-Core

FuelPlatform-Pharo-06

Fuel

And when you are down loading, then execute:

(Smalltalk at: #FLPlatform) current addHacks

 

I���m also not quite clear on how I would load packages without a Baseline (would I create my own baseline for the fuel packages I need?)

Tim

On 3 Aug 2017, at 12:07, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek@gmail.com> wrote:

2017-08-03 13:02 GMT+02:00 Tim Mackinnon <tim@testit.works>:

I really appreciate your patience and help on this - it looks very promising and I am giving it a spin now���

When you say the pharo repository - are you referring to this: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/tree/master/src. ? Just so I know for the future.

yes

-- Pavel 

Tim

On 3 Aug 2017, at 09:16, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek@gmail.com> wrote:

2017-08-03 10:14 GMT+02:00 Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek@gmail.com>:

The easiest think you can do is to copy to your repository (or some other) related packages from the Pharo repository (to do not have to clone it all):

Metacello-GitBasedRepository.package

Metacello-GitHub.package

SUnit-Core.package

and create baseline to load them. I already tried it so you can test it:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzSsmZhqtUTeMVJacTZtdW5UQW8

Then you will do something like:

(accidental message send ;-) )

BASELINE=MetacelloGitBasedRepository

pharo "$IMAGE_NAME.image" --no-default-preferences eval --save \

"Metacello new baseline: '$BASELINE'; repository: 'filetree://./PharoLambda/src'; load."

BASELINE=Lambda

pharo "$IMAGE_NAME.image" --no-default-preferences eval --save \

"Metacello new baseline: '$BASELINE'; repository: 'filetree://./PharoLambda/src'; load."

As I tried that. The baseline of Lambda is then able to be loaded.

-- Pavel

2017-08-02 15:18 GMT+02:00 Tim Mackinnon <tim@testit.works>:

Ah, I think I���m starting to get closer to what I need���

So if I want to load in that last piece to enable more general remote loading - how do I figure out how to do that? I���m trying to work out where the build steps for building up the image (can I see them in Jenkins? It wasn���t clear to me if I can look it up? Or the BaselineOfIDE was mentioned - looking there I can see a few metacello and gofer packages - but then I guess I���m looking for an easy Mcz I can use with the example below?

Or do I just load Metacello as a git submodule and then it will be on my local filesystem to then bootstrap up?

I guess I���m trying to work out the best sustainable approach to getting to a good server based image that has minimal tools and the ability to easily load remote code for pre-req projects.

Tim

On 2 Aug 2017, at 07:05, Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes, you should be able to load an mcz in that image by doing:

(MCDirectoryRepository new directory: 'where-your-mcz-is')

    loadVersionFromFileNamed: 'Metacello-GitBasedRepository-Author.1.mcz') load.

Guille

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 7:57 AM, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek@gmail.com> wrote:

2017-08-01 23:13 GMT+02:00 Tim Mackinnon <tim@testit.works>:

Hi Pavel - I tried it again and the problem is do with Metacello dependencies in your baseline.

The SUnit baseline doesn���t specify any additional dependencies to load (it just loads local packages), whereas my baseline that fails looks like this:

baseline: spec

<baseline>

spec for: #common do: [

spec configuration: 'ZTimestamp' with: [

spec 

versionString: #stable;

repository: 'http://mc.stfx.eu/Neo' ].

spec baseline: 'AWS' with: [

spec repository: 'github://newapplesho/aws-sdk-smalltalk:v1.10/pharo-repository' ].

spec 

package: 'Lambda' with: [ spec requires: {'ZTimestamp'. 'AWS'}].

].

The ���spec configuration: ���.��� Specifications cause the error:

25 UndefinedObject(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #addTo:

26 MCRepositoryGroup>>addRepository:

If I remove those lines from my baseline above (as well the requires: reference to them) I can then successfully load my packages.

So is this something the minimal image should support (otherwise how do you load external packages into your image without checking them in locally?) OR is there something simple I can checkin and load locally to return that behaviour? (Personally I think it would make sense to allow remote loading - I���m guessing Pharo itself as a core has everything it needs - but if you want to do any experimentation on the core and need remote packages, you would hit this too - so it feels a bit limiting). 

The dependencies in th baseline are supported but the support for most of external repositories (like package Metacello-GitBasedRepository) is loaded at the end of bootstrapping process in BaselineOfIDE. We should check/solve dependencies and move it into the minimal Pharo. For now you can try to load it by yourself or work with already prepared local clones of required repositories.

-- Pavel

 

Tim

On 1 Aug 2017, at 10:06, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek@gmail.com> wrote:

2017-07-31 22:51 GMT+02:00 Tim Mackinnon <tim@testit.works>:

I wasn���t clear on which image to retry - the https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-6.0-Update-Step-3.2-Minimal/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/Pharo-minimal-64.zip one still shows as being last updated 7 days ago.

The https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/view/6.0-SysConf/job/Pharo-6.0-Step-04-01-ConfigurationOfMinimalPharo/ one gives me a mismatch error: This interpreter (vers. 68021) cannot read image file (vers. 6521).

The https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/view/7.0/job/70-Bootstrap-32bit-Conversion/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/latest-minimal-64.zip one gives me a walkback when trying to run my install script :

25 UndefinedObject(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #addTo:

26 MCRepositoryGroup>>addRepository:

27 createRepository

  | repo |

  repo := self project createRepository: self.

  ^ MCRepositoryGroup default repositories

    detect: [ :each | each = repo ]

    ifNone: [ 

      MCRepositoryGroup default addRepository: repo.

      repo ] in MetacelloRepositorySpec>>createRepository

I think this is because the image doesn���t support Metacello? As in:

Metacello new
    repository: 'filetree://../src';
    baseline: 'Lambda';
    load.

How do you guys load things into the minimal images (I thought you used Metacello - but maybe you do it some other way?)

I can use a big 6.1 image fine (as it has Metacello loaded) but I���d really like a minimal solution - that can load in libraries like AWS S3, or XML parsing etc. and it seems like I should be a good customer for kicking the tires on all of this.

Tim

I checked the 64-bit Pharo 7 minimal image and loading of baseline (of SUnit from pharo-project/pharo) works:

./pharo Pharo7.0-minimal-64bit-b1625bf.image eval --save "Metacello new baseline: 'SUnit'; repository: 'filetree://./pharo-core/src'; load."

 

./pharo Pharo7.0-minimal-64bit-b1625bf.image eval "TestCase suite run"

Can you test it too?

-- Pavel

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