On 15 Mar 2018, at 09:27, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:



On 15 Mar 2018, at 00:08, Cyril Ferlicot <cyril.ferlicot@gmail.com> wrote:


On mer. 14 mars 2018 at 18:18, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:


> On 9 Mar 2018, at 23:34, Torsten Bergmann <astares@gmx.de> wrote:
>
> Additional portable versions would be nice too (based on a simple ZIP) instead of only the installable apps
>

Is there a deeper reason for this? If I look at ���other systems���, they manage to have *one* download, *one* way of installing.
For me, offering *a lot* of possible different ways means that the user has to choose without knowing why there is even the option to choose���

The problem is that Pharo is different from other systems. When you install eclipse, you'll use the installed eclipse for all your projects for a long time.

Pharo images are more like a "disposable". You'll not use the same Pharo image for multiple big projects and you'll more easily throw away an image to take a new one from time to time. 

Actually I think I download and delete around 5 images/day sometime. 

IMO this just strengthen Marcus argument :)

This complicate a little things because sometime you want to directly download one image. Sometime you want to have one application to manage your images (Pharo launcher) 

Why? You have launcher: you download all images you want (btw��� I still believe launcher UI needs love, but one thing at a time ;) )
And if you need more complex stuff, you always have the ���other��� section. 

but I side with Marcus here: we need ONE blessed way of manage pharo, otherwise is an un-managable mess.

cheers, 
Esteban

ps: btw, we���ll need also 
- OBS for the launcher (to have linux packaging)
- signing the launcher on mac (we already did this for the VM, we can do the same for launcher). And distribute it as dmg, not zip (a dmg is just a zip renamed so no problem here).
- a windows installer

and I would love support for this: https://sparkle-project.org to keep the ���Pharo��� app always up-to-date.

Marcus