2017-07-26 16:25 GMT+02:00 Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com>:
I imagine that hot-fixes means when we found a serious bug in the
alpha version and see that it is also in the previous version.

Now Hilaire if you want a change to be integrated in Pharo and Pharo
60 for example.

- we should have a bug entry on fogbugz (you see when I read the
emails I do not see the bug entry
so I have to look for it and lose time - because crawling the bug
database is tedious, so this is a lot more efficient to send also bug
entries).
- we should have a fix.
- it should be tagged for Pharo 60.
- it should be validated (pass the tests).

Each time we introduce a fix, we may break sometimes so we pay really
attention to have
limited fixes with limited impact.

For the ones you mentioned:

- I cannot find the PNGReader bug entry. I read all the mails of the thread.
So this is not efficient.

- https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20166/ is there but there is no
fix so we will have

The problem with fixes for Athens is, that nobody could tell we what the current state is.

http://forum.world.st/current-athens-configuration-td4914441.html#a4914488

the latest changes are from alexej and I guess they are important for sparta and the further development for bloc/sparte for pharo 7/8
We can not just take the latest version and put it in pharo 6, and hope that it will work.
We need for this external package a good communication about changes and versions.
This did not happen here. And I am not sure if we maybe already put some changes in pharo 6, that are not at the athens repository.
I once considered athens as an important package for the new pharo ui, but the way it is handled now looks more like abandoned.

that is the reason why I just put the fix for 20166 in the comment of the bug entry instead of providing a slice / or update the version on the repository.


It is ok if we tell hilaire to not just put bugreports on the ml but create a bug report on fogbugz instead. So people can fix/provide a slice and run the validation.
But this happend in this case. It is just that we do not get it right to handle this case because it depens on athens.

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People are nice and trying to help now everybody has its own agenda
and we set these "rules"
to avoid that we all lose time. If you want that people help you then
try to adhere to such best
practices.

Follow the Pharo process.

Stef.


On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 6:01 PM, Hilaire <hilaire@drgeo.eu> wrote:
> Hi,
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> It is the other minor bugs fixes details which were missing.
>
> What is hot-fixes?
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> Hilaire
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