>>>> Now for the documentation when did you send an help documentation for any part of the system?
>>>> Or a bug fix?
>>>> I find quite funny that people always talk but few are doing. We welcome comments/examples help.
>>> No need to get into a cat-fight here :)
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>> No this is not my point. But what do people really do to help?
>>
>>> I do agree with Stefan, as well as with you that we could help; but I'm unaware of a good documentation effort outside of the image to start with. Camillo's website project might be the best effort I've seen until now; but then I didn't really look either. Maybe I missed some great website?
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>> If this is just to spit out class comment on html I do not call that a documentation.
>> Now we can take the book contents and generate html
>> We have 350 pages in the first book and the same in the second one.
>> People are free to join and write one or two chapters.
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> St��phane,
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> Of course you are right: wining/complaining doesn't help, only action does. We need more people like Laurent focusing on documentation.
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> I for one think that the well written, high quality books that exist (PBE, Seaside Book) are *very valuable*, much better than confusing wiki site (although these have their place as well).
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> But the other point is: in most other popular languages, what current, young developers do, when they get an error that they don't understand is copy/paste the literal text in Google and in a surprisingly large number of cases you find some real answers in the first page.
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> This is also related to popularity of course.
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> Sven