(Belated) ���Hi, Folks���

To stress the point:

All of the 20-30 in-house apps I would have preferred to develop using Pharo(Squeak before that) were done in something that didn���t lack one of the following enablers (if we skip diacritics/fonts/locales):

�� Drag & Drop (from the outside world)

�� taskbar/status icons

�� support for being launched as [Windows] Service

�� COM

They might seem like small / moot points, but each and single one of them can be a show-stopper.

Probably could���ve written the support myself in the meantime, but the total lack of interest was what kept me from trying, and even asking for it.

I would have even tried to write something like Matrix myself (Fuel seemed promissing fot that use-case), but the rest of the ecosystem ...

Cheers and good luck,

  M.R.

From: Rau�� Miloslav
Sent: Thursday, February 29, 2024 5:56 PM
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Subject: RE: [Pharo-dev] Re: [Success Story] ApptiveGrid - Digitize and Automatize Business Processes

Funny how the story changes depending on the point where one stands.

OooooHHHHH, WE HAVE _AN_ APP.

vs:

Oh, they have an app ...

OS/Ecosystem Integration is what matters

�� native integration

o Drag & Drop (from the outside world)

o taskbar/status icons

o support for being launched as [Windows] Service

o COM on windows (and I mean propper support, not the Astares placebo)

o .NET bridge everywhere

o perhaps even @#%$ Java

Semblance of multicore support (even faked, as is ��� was? ��� the oh-so-great Cincom ���Matrix���) wouldn���t hurt (as far as dynamic/scripting languages go, TCL nailed it decades ago).

But yeah, progress happens, it just might seem slow to the people who are watching from the side-lines (Since Squeak 3, I think).

Keep on pushing forwards!