On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Craig Latta <craig@netjam.org> wrote:

Hi--

> Actually, I am fine with the prefixes. Objective-C also works like
> that and well, it hasn't exactly hampered its community to scale.

�� �� ��I think Objective-C might have had one or two other forces behind
it to compensate. :)

Sure. But not when it was at NeXT.��

> I have done my share of Java and yeah, sure, there are a lot of
> enterprise grade things in there. So many that actual development and
> delivery usually slows down to a crawl with lots of Java priests who
> confuse delivery of business value with technical show off.

�� �� ��For me this stuff isn't about being "enterprise-grade" or even
particularly sophisticated. It's rudimentary, like bothering to remember
where your car is parked. The lack of it is something that causes
potential participants I meet to stop listening, especially given the
power of the system in general. It's a strange discontinuity.

Looks like this thing as been discusses ad libitum in the past...��

I actually like this one:��http://swiki.krampe.se/gohu/32

Looks like no nonsense and not forcing anything down people throats.

Phil

-C

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