Is it okay for me to say that something isn't right here?

The way I see it if something in Neptuno ie GLMTreeMorphModel is going
to be in conflict with MorphTreeModel, then it shouldn't even released
in the first place or clearly marked as a work in progress.
MorphTreeModel appoears to be quite high up the Smalltalk environment
hierarchy. Unless the change which caused the conflict was caused by
introducing a method in MorphTreeModel "after" it was developed in
Glamour which doesn't appear to the case.

Which raises a few questions:

1. When a new version of Pharo �is released, is there a set of
packages with specified versions which are supposed to work perfectly
with that Pharo release?

2. When a packaged is created is the creator required to list the
exact base release and the combination of packages it is tested
against, eg Pharo 1.4-14557?

I am not saying this with regards to Neptuno in particular because the
conflict seems to come from Glamour, there is also another "announcer"
method in DBXBrowser but it appears the one in GLMTreeMorphModel is
the culprit. After trying what I �can truthfully describe as an
amateurish attempt to refactor the "announcer" method even the Finder
is broken. Basically I changed "announcer" to "announcerGLM" and the
Finder breaks with MNU:False>>announce and I can't revert it.

It doesn't feel right to me that search an important element in the
IDE should be broken by something lower down the hierarchy. I will try
it on earlier versions of Pharo to see.

On starting with Pharo I have had to switch among different versions
to get the demos working properly, but this name(space) clash is
simply too jarring

On 14 January 2013 19:46, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
> yes, but that means it is present twice in the hierarchy, after loading you can check when it corresponds actually and re-add announcer in MorphTreeModel, rename the one in Neptuno... and commit the fix for Neptuno to the repository... is all community work so feel free to do it :)
>
> Esteban
>
> On Jan 14, 2013, at 8:39 PM, Frank Church <vfclists@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If "announcer" is removed from MorphTreeModel isn't that likely to
>> break something else that depends on "announcer" being present in
>> MorphTreeModel?
>>
>> Is "announcer" something new in MorphTreeModel and is Neptuno
>> duplicating the function or is it the other round? MorphTreeModel
>> seems to be the UI object and it doesn't feel right to me that a
>> database oriented tool should override something in a UI object. I
>> think if the functionality is duplicated it may �be better to rename
>> the "announcer" in Neptuno.
>>
>>
>> On 14 January 2013 16:00, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> that's because somethings on morphic were added for 1.4 summer.
>>> Try removing "announcer" on MorphTreeModel, then load.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 14, 2013, at 4:46 PM, Frank Church <vfclists@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Has anyone managed to get Neptuno - ConfigurationOfDBXTools in Pharo 1.4?.
>>>>
>>>> When I try to install Neptuno in Pharo 1.4 I get the error -
>>>> 'announcer is already defined in MorphTreeModel'
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Frank Church <vfclists@gmail.com>
>>>> Date: 14 January 2013 01:05
>>>> Subject: Problem installing Neptuno
>>>> To: A friendly place where any question about pharo is welcome
>>>> <pharo-users@lists.gforge.inria.fr>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When I try to install Neptuno in Pharo 1.4 I get the error -
>>>> 'announcer is already defined in MorphTreeModel'
>>>>
>>>> Gofer it
>>>> � squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository';
>>>> � package: 'ConfigurationOfDBXTools';
>>>> � load.
>>>>
>>>> (((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfDBXTools)
>>>> � perform: #project)
>>>> � � � perform: #version: with: #stable)
>>>> � � � � � load: 'Phoseydon'.
>>>>
>>>> Gofer it
>>>> � squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository';
>>>> � package: 'ConfigurationOfDBXBrowser';
>>>> � load.
>>>>
>>>> (((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfDBXTools)
>>>> � perform: #project)
>>>> � � � perform: #version: with: #stable)
>>>> � � � � � load: 'Neptuno' .
>>>>
>>>> The error happens at the last stage when I am installing Neptuno.
>>>>
>>>> The issue appears in the DBXTalk mailing list -
>>>> http://forum.world.st/Re-Pharo-project-How-to-load-Phoseydon-and-Neptuno-td4659171.html
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Frank Church


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