On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 8:07 AM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:

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I agree to that. Skinning/Theming should be an important thing.

I am working on Sublimish because it reveals a lot of things that are not in sync between GToolkit bits and Pharo standard bits (well, GT is now Pharo standard but still). See various grays/jungle grays discrepancy because of hardcoded things instead of having a ThemePalette thing (I do have one working for my local stuff, one I get the theme correct in full, I'll put it in the catalog of 5.0).

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But I do not get it your 13136 was integrated.��

Not in the way I wanted it. Scrollbar thumb is still needing a click to see it in light theme. I can have a look.

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 6:28 PM, phil@highoctane.be <phil@highoctane.be> wrote:

I proposed that a while ago because these gradients are bad looking (especially in an age of flat design).

https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/13132/Ugly-gradients-in-Pharo3Theme-Not-in-line-with-the-times

Same for those ugly flat scrollbars.

https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/13136/Pharo3Theme-scrollbars-looking-like-dead-without-visual-indicators

This one has a slice.

Maybe Pharo 6 is not too late for those slices.

Phil

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:

https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19657/white-theme-color-for-button-is-not-good

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If we compare the selection color for the dark theme, the blue is stronger and much better to see.

This is particularly true for class/instance side button,

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I would be good to have a better white theme with stronger selection colors.