And I was just thinking that there may be more value *now* in writing tutorials than in writing a full featured help browser ?<br><br clear="all">Laurent Laffont<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:25 AM, laurent laffont <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:laurent.laffont@gmail.com">laurent.laffont@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">

Hi,<br><br>May be it&#39;s time to decouple�� ProfStef (the simple workspace one) from Tutorial Browser ? It seems goals are not the same:<br>- ProfStef as a little game to learn Smalltalk, interactive. Stay tiny, simple (..is beautiful :)<br>


- Tutorial / Help Browser to be an integrated help system with�� focused on &quot;easy to write docs&quot; using Danny&#39;s great work.<br><br>What do you think ?<br clear="all"><font color="#888888"><br>Laurent Laffont</font><div>

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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Torsten Bergmann <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:astares@gmx.de" target="_blank">astares@gmx.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">


Hi,<br>
<br>
I like the &quot;browser&quot; version of ProfStef more than the simple &quot;workspace&quot;<br>
based version. Especially since it allows us to provide more tutorials<br>
in the dev image just by loading.<br>
<br>
The tutorial browser could be one access point (accessible from world<br>
menu) and is extensible by loading a ��package with an own tutorial<br>
(like Metacello, ...)<br>
<br>
Unfortunately &quot;ConfigurationOfProfStef&quot; currently only uses<br>
the simple workspace version.<br>
<br>
What&#39;s the plan here?<br>
<br>
<br>
A vision for the future:<br>
��- a generalized help system maybe similar to what we know from Eclipse<br>
 �� [1], KDE [2], or Windows [3]<br>
��- nested tutorials with deeper structure than (currently) one<br>
��- the ability to use &quot;help&quot; in a tool which opens a<br>
 �� specific chapter and show people how to use Monticello, TestRunner, ...<br>
��- tutorials/help descriptions managed like code<br>
 �� (no pointers to outdated wiki pages from Squeak)<br>
��- an active help system with live code samples and maybe based on<br>
 �� a cleaned up Bookmorph? ;)<br>
<br>
We are already halfway there, arent we?<br>
<br>
Thx<br>
T.<br>
<br>
[1] <a href="http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/cn/linux/opensource/os-echelp/eclipse-help.gif" target="_blank">http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/cn/linux/opensource/os-echelp/eclipse-help.gif</a><br>
[2] <a href="http://www.lrz-muenchen.de/services/compute/linux-cluster/intro/khelpcenter.png" target="_blank">http://www.lrz-muenchen.de/services/compute/linux-cluster/intro/khelpcenter.png</a><br>
[3] <a href="http://www.knopf.com/resources/help/screenshots/winhelp2k.gif" target="_blank">http://www.knopf.com/resources/help/screenshots/winhelp2k.gif</a><br>
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