2015-05-28 20:30 GMT+02:00 Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito@gmail.com>:
Always Ctrl. That's how usual application shortcuts work on windows and unix. Ctrl.

If so, then this is an important issue:

windows vm does not distinguish between ctrl+a and ctrl+home

if we want to remove the shortcuts that using alt and ctrl and use
ctrl only on windows, this needs to be fixed.
Otherwise you can not assign
ctrl+a to select all
ctrl+d to doIt
because it currently maps
ctrl+a -> "Home"
and
ctrl+d -> "End"



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El jue., 28 de may. de 2015 a la(s) 8:28 p. m., Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> escribi��:
ok��� but we are using what?
alt or ctrl?
my question is: the menus should show (for example, to save the image):

Ctrl + Shift + S

or

Alt + Shift + S

and since we are there: What happens with linux?

Esteban


On 28 May 2015, at 20:25, Franck Warlouzet <franck.warlouzet@hotmail.fr> wrote:

It depends, ahah.
To copy/paste it is ctrl, but to quit a window it is alt F4, to switch between windows it is alt + tab ...��
But there is also a meta key, the windows key. With a mac keyboard for example, the cmd key does this meta key.��

As a windows user it became an other language to know, there is no absolute rule for shortcuts��

Franck

From: estebanlm@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 20:16:49 +0200
To: nicolaihess@web.de; pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org
Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] I need a windows user and a linux user to test

I���m lost now.��
Which one is the ���meta��� key in windows? Alt or Ctrl?

Esteban

On 28 May 2015, at 20:04, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@web.de> wrote:



2015-05-28 19:47 GMT+02:00 Franck Warlouzet��<franck.warlouzet@hotmail.fr>:
I am a windows user and I noticed a couple of strange things :

- To open a transcript, or a browser or other, it is written alt + O + T, or B, or other, but it is ctrl + O + T, or B or other actually.

this changed just recently
ToolShortcutsCategory has hard code shortcut.

(pharo 50071 (I asked Cyril to announce this change on the mailing list))


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- Do it in a playground is alt + d or ctrl + d, but in Nautilus it is only alt + d (ctrl + d seems to go to the end of the text)
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I will continue to find this kind of thing��

Cheers,

Franck
From:��estebanlm@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 19:15:05 +0200
To:��pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org
Subject: [Pharo-dev] I need a windows user and a linux user to test


Hi,��

I need win/linux users (and why not, other mac users than me) to test this issue:��


basically, it normalises all menu shortcut output��� in a long but clear way (and compatible with the platform).

cheers,��
Esteban