Hi Alex,

Le 07/04/2018 �� 17:48, Aliaksei Syrel a ��crit��:
> Hi
>
> Here is a link to a report about their experience with Pharo:
> https://gitlab.fit.cvut.cz/taibrmar/sokoban-using-bloc
>
> There definitely exist things that should be improved. It is a pity when
> tiny ���minor��� issues leave such an unpleasant aftertaste.

Some of them are, sadly, quite unacceptable, IMHO.

I would really dream of a stable, correctly interruptible (i.e. a Cmd-.
that really works), limited Pharo core. That would help development so
significantly and allow more experiments.

I solve that by making stuff that distance itself as much as possible
from a lot of the Pharo stuff that evolves far too much, far too fast to
be relied upon (widgets, graphics, editors), and I'm looking forward to
building a limited(*) image with just and only the things I rely on.

One of the thing I need is a CI that triggers both on my code releases
and any Pharo update (including the stable ones) since even stable
releases may change core APIs.

> Anyway, there are lovers and haters of every language.

That I can agree with :)

> Some people even
> give dislikes to videos on YouTube that show how veterinarians heal cats...
>
> All the best
> Alex

Regards,

Thierry

(*) I did try with the minimal image, and the tools are clearly limiting.

> On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 at 17:27, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com
> <mailto:stepharo.self@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>�� �� ��I tend to not care about people pissing on me via a pseudo. This is
>�� �� ��too easy and too microscopic to have any value.
>�� �� ��Thanks Philippe, Luke and Ben because you use your real names.
>
>�� �� ��On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 2:07 PM, Esteban Lorenzano
>�� �� ��<estebanlm@gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> wrote:
>�� �� �� > Hi,
>�� �� �� >
>�� �� �� > yesterday someone posted an article on HN about the Pharo MOOC
>�� �� ��and there has
>�� �� �� > been some negative posts there.
>�� �� �� > I would like to call people who can have the time to answer there
>�� �� ��and help
>�� �� �� > to explain better and also contribute to contest that FUD
>�� �� ��someones (we know
>�� �� �� > who they are��� sames as always) are spreading.
>�� �� �� >
>�� �� �� > here the link : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16754872
>�� �� �� >
>�� �� �� > (this is not loosing time, people searching for Pharo will likely
>�� �� ��see this
>�� �� �� > kind of messages��� at least we need to offer our point of view)
>�� �� �� >
>�� �� �� > cheers!
>�� �� �� > Esteban
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Alex