On 10 November 2016 at 11:42, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:

Hi Igor,

I am happy to see you getting active again. The next step is to commit code at the rate you reply emails. I���d be even happier :).

To address your point, of course it certainly would be great to have more people work on automated support for swapping data in and out of the image. That was the original idea behind the Fuel work. I have seen a couple of cases on the mailing lists where people are actually using Fuel for caching purposes. I have done this a couple of times, too. But, at this point these are dedicated solutions and would be interesting to see it expand further.

However, your assumption is that the best design is one that deals with small chunks of data at a time. This made a lot of sense when memory was expensive and small. But, these days the cost is going down very rapidly, and sizes of 128+ GB of RAM is nowadays quite cheap, and there are strong signs of super large non-volatile memories become increasingly accessible. The software design should take advantage of what hardware offers, so it is not unreasonable to want to have a GC that can deal with large size.

The speed of GC will always be in linear dependency from the size of governed memory. Yes, yes.. super fast and super clever, made by some wizard.. but still same dependency.
So, it will be always in your interest to keep memory footprint as small as possible. PERIOD.
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We should always challenge the assumptions behind our designs, because the world keeps changing and we risk becoming irrelevant, a syndrome that is not foreign to Smalltalk aficionados.

What you saying is just: okay, we have a problem here, we hit a wall.. But we don't look for solutions! Instead let us sit and wait till someone else will be so generous to help with it.

WOW, what a brilliant strategy!!

So, you putting fate of your project(s) into hands of 3-rd party, which
a) maybe , only maybe will work to solve your problem in next 10 years
b) may decide it not worth effort right now(never) and focus on something else, because they have own priorities after all

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Are you serious?
"Our furniture don't fits in modern truck(s), so let us wait will industry invent bigger trucks, build larger roads and then we will move" Hilarious!

In that case, the problem that you arising is not that mission-critical to you, and thus making constant noise about your problem(s) is just what it is: a noise.

Which returns us to my original mail with offensive tone.

Cheers,
Doru

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Best regards,
Igor Stasenko.