Ok, this is way nicer. The line that was missing and that seems to solve all this is<br><br>self initializeSpecialObjectIndices.<br><br>which I think should be placed in Alien&gt;&gt;#initialize just before<br><br>self ensureInSpecialObjectsArray.<br>


<br>but then I don&#39;t know why it should ensure anything that is done just before.<br><br>With that I it&#39;s really close to work. After a few hours I understood the way tests are done. In Alien plugin you integrated a couple of exported functions (ffiTest*), which you then call in the tests. These funcs do simple stuff like adding and returning the result, so you can compare, am I right?<br>


<br>Then I realized that (at least in linux) the tests won&#39;t work if you compile as internal (there won&#39;t be a .so, so you won&#39;t be able to load the C test functions!). <br><br>Now with the small fix I added, and compiling as external, I can see that it&#39;s actually almost almost working, buuuut I get these test results: 36 run, 17 passed, 19 failures, 0 errors (had to remove testCallingSquenceString because it crashed the VM). Notice that before I got 20 errors and 0 failures. This is because the results are wrong.<br>

<br><br>I debugged the code with ddd to see what&#39;s happening, and I can see that everything is going nice before the actual function call, that is done in dabusiness.h. <br><br><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">������ funcAlien = interpreterProxy-&gt;stackValue(funcOffset);</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">

<span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">������ f = *(void **)startOfParameterData(funcAlien);</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">#if STACK_ALIGN_BYTES (in my compiled code it is&#39;nt defined, should it?)</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">

<span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">������ /* cut stack back to start of aligned args */</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">������ setsp(argstart);</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">

<span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">#endif</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">������ r = f();</span><br><br>
I took as example test #ffiTestLongLong10a2:, which calls ffiTestLongLong10a2(char c1, char c2, char c3, char c4, char c5, char c6, char c7, char c8, char c9, char c10, LONGLONG i1, LONGLONG i2). <br><br>dabusiness.h allocated 56 bytes in argvec (10*4 for chars + 2*8 for longlong), which then fills correctly (ddd says 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 0 12 0). I have to admit that I don&#39;t fully understand whats happening with the stack then, but ffiTestLongLong10a2 gets its arguments wrong. I&#39;m thinking of a calling convention problem. Here it&#39;s why:<br>

<br>In some run I have: &amp;argvec[0] is pos 0aa0 (this is actually direction inside the stack, near it&#39;s top). Just before assembly CALL ffiTestLongLong10a2 I have ebp=0b68, and after the call it is pushed and replaced with esp, which is 0a88. Then, we have, args at 0aa0, 0aa4, ..., and current stack frame starting at 0a88 and going lower, 0a84, etc. That may be ok, but when I look into the ffiTestLongLong10a2 assembly it is trying to find the arguments by *substracting* to ebp (arg1 in ebp-1c, 2nd in ebp-20, ...) when it should adding, looking in greater positions (previous stack frame, arg1 is in ebp+18). This has to be some simple calling convention stuff, but I don&#39;t know how to solve it, any ideas?.<br>

<br>Thanks for reading,<br>�������������������������������������������������� Javier.<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 9:05 PM, John M McIntosh <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com" target="_blank">johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

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<div style="word-wrap: break-word;">It would be missing, propose a change set.<div><br></div><div>I would think people usually don&#39;t use VMMaker images as their daily work image.��</div><div><br></div><div>So take image, load vmaker, load vmaker stuff for alien, make alien plugin.��</div>


<div><br></div><div>got to my work image that doesn&#39;t have vmmaker in it,��</div><div>load alien support stuf, you don&#39;t need the alien-vmmaker-support btw.��</div><div>run tests.��</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>


<div><br></div><div><div><div></div><div><div><div>On 2010-03-01, at 3:36 PM, Javier Pim��s wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">Hi, I&#39;m still trying to advance with this. Don&#39;t know what caused the ObjectMemory classPools but it seems to be away now, maybe I did some mistake last time.<br>


<br>The thing is that now I have in ObjectMemory classPools all the original ones plus 4 new elements, which I think were added with this Alien-VMMaker-Support override:<br>

<br>ObjectMemory&gt;&gt;#initialize<br>initialize<br>������ #( #ClassAlien #ClassUnsafeAlien #InvokeCallbackSelector #SelectorAttemptToAssign)<br>������ do: [:c |<br>������ ������ [ObjectMemory addClassVarName: c] ifError: []].<br><br>




the thing is that it never assigns them any value, so my theory is that there&#39;s some code missing? Then in Interpreter it happens something quite similar. Interpreter&gt;&gt;#initialize does this:<br><br>...<br><br>������ #(#PrimErrBadArgument #PrimErrBadIndex #PrimErrBadNumArgs #PrimErrBadReceiver ������ #PrimErrGenericFailure #PrimErrInappropriate #PrimErrNoCMemory #PrimErrNoMemory ������ #PrimErrNoModification #PrimErrNotFound #PrimErrTableIndex #PrimErrUnsupported #PrimNoErr )<br>




������ do: [:c |<br>������ ������ [Interpreter addClassVarName: c] ifError: []].<br><br>������ #(#primFailCode) <br>������ ������ do: [:i |�� [Interpreter addInstVarName: i] ifError: []].<br><br>...<br><br>but then never calls initializePrimitiveErrorCodes, which would set the vars to a meaningfull value.<br>




<br><br>In conclusion, the question would be, where is this missing initialization code?<br><br>Hope you can help, thanks!<br><br>Javier.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Javier Pim��s <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:elpochodelagente@gmail.com" target="_blank">elpochodelagente@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>




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<div style="word-wrap: break-word;"><br><div><div><div>On 2010-02-22, at 6:48 PM, Javier Pim��s wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">Nice!!!!!!!! It&#39;s compiling now. Now, I loaded tests, and here are the results:<br>





<br>37 run, 17 passed, 0 failures, 20 errors.<br><br>TestCallingSequenceChar10Long2<br>TestCallingSequenceChar2LongLong2<br>TestCallingSequenceChar8Long2<br>


TestCallingSequenceChar9Long2<br>TestCallingSequenceCharLongLong2<br>TestCallingSequenceChars<br>TestCallingSequenceDoubles14<br>TestCallingSequenceDoubles2<br>TestCallingSequenceFloats13<br>TestCallingSequenceFloats14<br>








TestCallingSequenceFloats2<br>TestCallingSequenceFloats2WithInteger<br>TestCallingSequenceFloats2WithInteger2<br>TestCallingSequenceFloats7<br>TestCallingSequenceInt<br>TestCallingSequenceInt8<br>TestCallingSequenceIntWithFloatArgs<br>








TestCallingSequenceLongLong2<br>TestCallingSequenceShort<br>TestCallingSequenceString<br></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Oh look SUnits, great stuff (*cough* well I wrote most of them).��</div><div><div>
<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div><br>Cool, this is really really useful (although I sometimes find wrting tests boring ;) ). <br></div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">





<div style="word-wrap: break-word;"><div><div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><br><br>It is failing in places where it does primLoadLibrary: &#39;IA32ABI&#39;. Why should it try to load itself, if it&#39;s compiled as an internal plugin? I compiled it as external too but didn&#39;t work either.<br>





</blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Well it compiled, but that doesn&#39;t mean it works. In fact the error means the plugin code is never loaded, or is callable.��</div><div>Now one thing to consider is that the plugin load fails, because it can&#39;t find it. (external usage).��</div>





<div>Or because (internal and external plugin) ��the VM Version and the plugin version don&#39;t match.��</div><div><br></div><div>Look for your definition of��</div><div><div style="margin: 0px; color: rgb(127, 71, 36);">#define VM_PROXY_MINOR <span style="color: rgb(70, 0, 225);">8</span></div>





<div><font size="3" face="Menlo" color="#4600e1"><span style="font-size: 11px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font size="3" face="Menlo" color="#4600e1"><span style="font-size: 11px;">It should be 8 or higher for compiling BOTH the VM and the Plugin.��</span></font></div>





<div><font size="3" face="Menlo" color="#4600e1"><span style="font-size: 11px;">Since the sqVirtualMachine.h is in the IA32ABI folder maybe there is mass confusion about which header is being used?��</span></font></div><div>





<font size="3" face="Menlo" color="#4600e1"><span style="font-size: 11px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font size="3" face="Menlo" color="#4600e1"><span style="font-size: 11px;">If for example your VM say it&#39;s a��<span style="color: rgb(127, 71, 36);">VM_PROXY_MINOR of 7, then it won&#39;t work with a plugin compiled with��VM_PROXY_MINOR = 8.��</span></span></font></div>





<div><font size="3" face="Menlo" color="#7f4724"><span style="font-size: 11px;">It silently fails... Well actually it gives the primLoadLibrary failure, but good luck in guessing why...��</span></font></div></div></div></div>





</blockquote></div><div><br>Well, I just overwrote sqVirtualMachine.c/h in Cross/vm, shouldn&#39;t have I? It wouldn&#39;t compile if I didn&#39;t and its sets it to 8. Is it defined in any other place?<br><br></div><div>




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<div style="word-wrap: break-word;"><div><div><div><font size="3" face="Menlo" color="#4600e1"><span style="font-size: 11px;"><br></span></font></div></div><div><br><blockquote type="cite">


<br>Other question, can classic FFI and Alien live nicely together (I mean have x plugin use classic FFI while y uses Alien)?<br><br></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>yes.��</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite">
One more: should I use IA32ABIPlugin or IA32ABIPluginAttic? You can&#39;t have both in, right?<br></blockquote><div><br></div></div>One is a subclass of the other. I use the��IA32ABIPluginAttic one.��</div></div></blockquote>





</div><div><br>Ok, what is the difference between them? a performance issue? everything works the same I choose one or the other?<br>��</div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">





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<br>Syntax highligthing is broken for Alien primitive methods like these:<br><br>&lt;primitive: &#39;primUnsignedShortAtPut&#39; error: errorCode module: &#39;IA32ABI&#39;&gt;<br><br>Lastly, as I said when I loaded Alien Core the first time, I got this error while loading it:<br>








<br>Alien class&gt;&gt;#ensureInSpecialObjectsArray: &quot;Index probably wrong&quot;.<br><br>What should I do about that? ignore it?<br></blockquote><div><br></div></div>Well it seems to be related to��</div><div><br></div>





<div><div><span style="white-space: pre;">	</span>((Smalltalk includesKey: #ObjectMemory)</div><div><span style="white-space: pre;">	</span> and: [((Smalltalk at: #ObjectMemory) classPool at: #ClassAlien ifAbsent: []) ~~ (index - 1)]) ifTrue:</div>





<div><span style="white-space: pre;">		</span>[self error: &#39;index probably wrong&#39;].</div><div><br></div><div>Usually people don&#39;t have ObjectMemory loaded in their image, and I&quot;m not sure what it is check for.��</div>





<div>Why don&#39;t you try it in a regular Pharo image versus your VMMaker image.��</div><div><div><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br>In Pharo 1.0RC2 without any change, ObjectMemory doesn&#39;t exist. When I load VMMaker it&#39;s downloaded from monticello, but obviously, #ClassAlien isn&#39;t defined inside<br>





<br>(Smalltalk at: #ObjectMemory) classPool<br><br>Interestingly, after load alien, #ClassAlien gets added as a key, but all values of (Smalltalk at: #ObjectMemory) classPool are set to nil, like this:<br><br>(Smalltalk at: #ObjectMemory) classPool inspect:<br>





<br>- size : 119<br>[#AllButHashBits] : nil<br>[#AllButMarkBit] : nil<br>[#AllButMarkBitAndTypeMask] : nil<br>[#AllButRootBit] : nil<br>[#AllButTypeMask] : nil<br>...<br>[#ClassAlien] : nil<br>...<br></div></div><br><br>




Any ideas?<div><div></div><div><br>
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