Ah yes another thing which wouuld be nice to have something with one can
understand without studying it for years and repeated tries. A simple
way of building somewhat resembling GUI applications in Pharo/Squeak. Ah
yes flame me that I do appreciate the fantastic Morph world. It's ��so
fantastic that just the developers can build a somewhat "usable"
interface with it. Tell me about the "great" applicatons using Morph
(anything besides yet another Browser please)

>
> And yes, I am just as opinionated about my perceptions of the
> deficiencies of Python, Clojure, Ruby, Eclipse, Netbeans, ...
> Or my frustrations when using them.
> I just don't go into those communities expecting them to shape their
> favorite tool to my vision. I rather try to use their tools and
> attempt to learn their values and ways, assuming they have reason and
> purpose for their language and tools.

Well at least you get an Editor with Eclipse and Netbeans. But yeah we
don't need not stinking Editor.

> The biggest problem is people visiting a community and believing they
> have the right to speak into that community. If you want that right,
> spend some time here. Develop community relations. Then in time you
> earn that right to be heard.

He has all the right to write what he wants. You have to cope with that,
you can agree or disagree. That's up to you but you are not the ape at
the door to prohibit his entry.

>
> I have limited rights to be heard here because I have been a part of
> the Squeak/Pharo community for a long time. I have less rights than
> others because I haven't contributed anything of consequence. Others
> who have been here far less time but have contributed a lot more, have
> greater rights.

This is poor attitude. Just imagine Denis Ritchie would come here, with
no experience of Smalltalk at all. ��Wouldn't he have the right to state
his opinion?

Regards
Friedrich


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