On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Torsten Bergmann <astares@gmx.de> wrote:

Mariano Martinez Peck wrote on [1]:
>I don't agree here. You DON'T necessary need to have the packages inside the
>image to have a UI.

Please read what I wrote.

I never, never, answer an email without reading. Ever.
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I did not say that it is impossible
to build the UI when you have an external config - but "it would
be easy to build a UI" when it is already in the image. I'm sure
you will agree here.

Probably. But then you have to create� a new tools with a UI, update (you will need to update the configurations, etc).
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However - even when SqueakMap is not well maintained - it's UI
was easy to use and was easy accessible and one could use it
with a few clicks.

Ok...but I still think there is not too much difference: In SM you have to:
- first do always an update
-� browse categories, search the pacakge , select it, then select the version (hopefully you know which version works in THAT verion of squeak)

Is this really too different to browse a repo with MonticelloBrowser and just load it ?� The only thing we don't have is categories.
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Using Monticello tools, loading and evaluating by hand is

Not necessary. We can put a class side method initialize that does a self project version: 'theVersionThatWorksInPharo1.0' load
and wala! not necessary even to create load method. No need to evaluate nothing by hand. Just browse, select a package, and click load button. And there, you are SURE you will load the version that works with that Pharo version.
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currently possible - but this is a step backward in usability
compared to what Squeak has/had. But this is a convenience/tool
issue that has to be solved.

I even think that maybe managing projects "polymorphicly"� with the same tool (Monticello Browser) is a nice idea. At least for a first step. If this infrastructure works well, there will be probably someone with time and willing to do a particular tool for what you want.

Cheers

Mariano

Bye
T.

[1] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2010-May/026829.html
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