Hi Stef,

On 5 August 2017 at 18:14, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
> So one step at a time:
>
> - #cr and #lf just put this character in the stream.
> - #newLine put the underlying OS line ending. ( and sorry for the
> nostalgic but nl sucks and to me this is netherlands and not newline
> :).

Beyond the nostalgic and humorous, there is actually a justification
for the shorter #nl.

Adding a new line is a common operation, and more compact code is more
readable.�� So I find:

stream
�� �� << 'Line 1 goes here'; nl;
�� �� << 'Line 2 goes here'; nl.

better than:

stream
�� �� nextPutAll: 'Line 1 goes here'; newLine;
�� �� nextPutAll: 'Line 2 goes here'; newLine.


Although this is still subjective.

Cheers,
Alistair

> Then we should revisit all the cr inside the system and use newline.
> Then we should think about the internal usage of cr by default in
> Pharo (We should change it).
>
> Does it make sense?
> Stef
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 4:08 PM, K K Subbu <kksubbu.ml@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Friday 04 August 2017 07:11 PM, Damien Pollet wrote:
>>>
>>> Stream >> newLineFor: platform
>>>�� �� �� self nextPutAll: platform lineEnding
>>>
>>
>> EOL encoding is a property of a text file and not a platform. While files
>> created on a certain proprietary platforms ;-) may use an encoding that does
>> not make it a platform property. Pharo should be liberal in accepting and
>> preserving differently encoded files. E.g. Text editor vim has a setting
>> (fileformats) for eol encoding to view or edit files with cr or crlf EOL
>> encoding. If this is not set, vim falls back to nl.
>>
>> I agree that existing messages like cr or nl should not be changed. Instead
>> new methods (*eol) could be added to text files for decoding (read side) and
>> encoding (write side). This should be liberal in accepting cr, nl, crnl
>> decodes while reading a text file. While writing a new stream, eol should
>> follow this order:
>>�� �� �� ��1. if file eol property is set (cr/nl/crnl) it should use it
>>�� �� �� ��2. else fallback to check platform eol property.
>>�� �� �� ��3. Else, use cr (for backward compatibility with old files)
>> E.g.
>>
>>�� (aStream atEOL) ifFalse: [ c := aStream next ]
>>�� aStream nextPutAll: 'hello world' ; writeEOL
>>�� record := aStream readLine. "strip eol"
>>�� aStream nextPutLine: 'hello world'
>>
>> This is not going to be an easy change but it would make new code cleaner.
>>
>> Regards .. Subbu
>>
>