On 13 Nov 2017, at 22:30, Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com> wrote:

Just curious regarding Slide 16 [1] which indicates UFFI sequence is...
1. Generate bytecodes for marshalling
2. Re-send method invocation

Do the bytecodes get cached so that (1.) is only down once?

What impact is Sista/Scorch expected to have on UFFI?
Considering for example that the commonly used method...
ffiCall: fnSpec
^ (self ffiCalloutIn: thisContext sender)
convention: self ffiCallingConvention;
function: fnSpec module: self ffiLibraryName
...has several message sends.

[1] https://www.slideshare.net/esug/unifiedffi-a-common-language-for-the-outside-world

we still do not sit to solve the problem, but we have a strategy: SISTA bytecode set contains bytecodes to invoque primitives which means possible to do a primitive call inside a method (it does not needs to be an independent method). This way, the optimiser can work also on methods that ends on primitives.

As far as I know, adapting to SISTA will not be very complicated. But of course, there will be some work needed.

btw, Slide 2 gave me a nice chuckle to start the day. Stabilization is a difficult/boring task with highly visible issues which Esteban bears the brunt of dealing with, along with accompanying pressures. I'd like to take this random opportunity to thank Esteban for his continuing efforts, and also previous Consortium engineers (Igor) and those supporting them. We wouldn't be where we are today without such a focal point.

thanks :)

Esteban

cheers -ben