On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Guido Chari <charig@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

We didn't expect to be found yet :).

haHaaa!! *grin* �� the many eyeballs of opensource strikes again!��

Hopefully there is some benefit in my poking my nose to learn of Jan's work.

Release early, Release often is the mantra on the day.

btw, This history page initially confused me...

�� https://gitlab.com/johnnyzz/pharonos/network/pharonos

The top five commits (Oct 25 - Nov 3) are Jan's 2016��work.

Commit six (Apr 7) and lower is your work from 2011. ��

Its a pain there is nothing to indicate such a jump in time.

cheers -ben

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But well...we are actually working on a second revival of the SqueakNOS project. Hope to give news in the mailing list soon, but we are still far from having something working with all the new stuff.

Concerning submodules, yes there are plenty of arguments for and against. I've been using them successfully in some projects depending on the Truffle/Graal platform. Nonetheless, in case we managed to make progress and the community is interested on the results, for sure we will be open to discuss about this.

Best,
Guido. ��

2017-03-18 10:53 GMT-03:00 Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com>:
In the network graph hovering over charig/2-March commit I see a new
platform Nopsys added for SqueakNOS.
�� [A] https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/network

Thats cool !!!�� It'll be great to see this work with OpenSmalltalk.
However I notice its been added as a submodule.
�� [B] https://github.com/charig/opensmalltalk-vm/commit/2bd87b525b6b46439c90506c0a47e17ea1d5ac93

Submodules bring additional complexity, so I thought there should be
some discussion on this topic.
Here are a couple of balanced introductions to submodules...
�� [C] http://www.catalyst-au.net/blog/git-submodule-misunderstood-beast-or-remorseless-slavering-monster
�� [D] https://www.philosophicalhacker.com/post/using-git-submodules-effectively/

And a couple of cautions about using them...
�� [E] http://slopjong.de/2013/06/04/git-why-submodules-are-evil/
�� [F] https://rufflewind.com/2017-02-21/quirks-with-submodules

Guido & Javier,
Have you used submodules successfully elsewhere?
Could you discuss your strategy using a submodule for the platform
code rather than adding directly into the opensmalltalk-vm repository?

I see your parent repository includes opensmalltalk-vm as a submodule
similar to how I *thought* Pharo was doing it, but wait on comment
from Esteban. .
�� [G] https://github.com/charig/Nopsys
�� [H] https://github.com/charig/Nopsys/blob/master/.gitmodules
So it seems�� platforms/Nopsys�� is a sub-sub-module.

cheers -ben