It is true that Reddit and HN are the frontier but "battling" is a terrible metaphor to embrace.

You don't battle naysayers. Nobody has the money and emotional labor to do it. You don't battle them because if you do and you win, you will be "full of reason", less productive, with potentially transforming a naysayer in a hater and no real gain (no wealth creation in the process).

The alternative is to indirectly prove them wrong by simply showing that Smalltalk is more than adequate to implement <insert naysayer objection here>

Of course for that to happen you have to have a case, done with hard work on those frameworks and solutions, otherwise the shoot goes to your foot (and they will remember you as a bullshitter)

This articles and discussions there are great to create opportunities for those who do cool stuff and have cases to show them up.

That can create wealth.

So, for those who do, that's the wrong time to remain silent and discrete and the right time to display what can be done.

Act.

If you can show cool stuff, act, case by case, it will elevates the whole niche and position you as a reference on that

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> On 09/01/2015, at 03:08, horrido <horrido.hobbies@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Well, I must say, my article really touched off a firestorm of controversy.
> The Reddit thread is *very* active! Hacker News is also fairly lively. This
> is where all of you do battle with the naysayers and critics.
>
> From my standpoint, my article did its job. It served as a lightning rod to
> draw in developers from all over the world, from every other programming
> language. *Now that we have their attention*, our job is to try our best to
> persuade them.
>
> If we can "sell" Smalltalk to enough people, we gain mindshare. Companies
> may hear about Smalltalk and possibly include it in their internal IT
> discussions. Smalltalk may even get back on the TIOBE language index!
>
> We must keep the public discourse alive. I encourage you to blog about it,
> write articles about it, comment on social media sites, etc. Because once
> things settle down, they will /forget/ about Smalltalk...again.
>
>
> horrido wrote
>> Yes, I posted to both Reddit and Hacker News simultaneously. Looks like it
>> has a slower uptake at Hacker News:
>> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8856503
>> <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8856503>
>>
>> Is it possible that I've finally succeeded in igniting a revolution? I
>> feel like Che Guevara.
>
>>
>> sebastian@flowingconcept.com wrote
>>> It was posted already on Hacker News or Reddit?
>>>
>>> If not, it sounds like is the right time to do that
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jan 8, 2015, at 5:03 PM, horrido &lt;
>
>>> horrido.hobbies@
>
>>> &gt; wrote:
>>>>
>>>> WHOA! My article is *ON FIRE!* Seven hours into publication and it has
>>>> achieved a staggering 2.7K views, 1.1K reads, and 9 recommendations.
>>>> It's
>>>> catching up to my best article ever, " The Case for Go Web Frameworks
>>>> &lt;https://medium.com/@richardeng/the-case-for-go-web-frameworks-a791fcd79d47
>>>> &lt;https://medium.com/@richardeng/the-case-for-go-web-frameworks-a791fcd79d47&gt;>
>>>> ", which had 3.9K views and 2.4K reads.
>>>>
>>>> Who would've thought that Smalltalk would be such a hot topic?! I am
>>>> truly
>>>> flabbergasted.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> horrido wrote
>>>>> In
>>>> *
>>>>> the 3 hours
>>>> *
>>>>> since this article was published at Medium, it has garnered
>>>> *
>>>>> 178 views
>>>> *
>>>>> and
>>>> *
>>>>> 96 reads
>>>> *
>>>>> , and counting! This makes it easily the most "hot" article I've ever
>>>>> written. It is currently at the top of
>>>>> Medium's front page &lt;https://medium.com/&gt;
>>>>> which is reserved for "hot" or "trending" articles.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks to everyone!
>>>>> horrido wrote
>>>>>> https://medium.com/@richardeng/the-smalltalk-revolution-ee245c281f51
>>>>>> &lt;https://medium.com/@richardeng/the-smalltalk-revolution-ee245c281f51&gt;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I welcome your comments. It's not too late to edit the piece.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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