I'm also against.

- They take a place in the shortcuts that prevents others to use it
- If lazy people really needs this, the code completion should be enhanced. This is a code completion concern...

In general, my rule of thumb is to answer the following questions:
�� How many people use it?
������ - if a lot, maybe it makes sense to integrate it
������ - if not a lot, make it a loadable extension

�� How often do people use it?
������ - if at least 10 times per hour (e.g., reformat code, senders, implementors, search) the shortcut should be simple
������ - otherwise we can put it in a more complex combination to leave place to the common ones.

Guille

-------- Original Message --------
From a software design perspective it shouldn't be easy to insert #ifTrue:ifFalse :)

Norbert

Am 03.08.2016 um 10:15 schrieb Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@gmail.com>:

Any objections on using
cmd+t / cmd+f for insert ifTrue/ifFalse
(linux/windows this would be alt+t/alt+f, mac this would be cmd+t/cmd+f).

2015-08-12 18:52 GMT+02:00 stepharo <stepharo@free.fr>:









Le 11/8/15 10:25, Nicolai Hess a
��crit��:







I am nearly finished with converting old shortcut
mapping (Editor/TextEditor cmdActions/shiftCmdAction
map)


to our keymapping framework.


cleanup TextEditors shortcut
definition









Thank a lot!



Yesterday with guillermo and christophe we spent one full afternoon
reading all the recursive dependencies introduced

when we just want to have monticello in the bootstrap (to be able to
load code).

We filled up two black boards and I should say that I was a nice
down to see the complexity but we will fix it :).



Yesterday Esteban sat with igor and started to integrate the
OSWindow integration work of igor (yes igor you should do pull
requests :).

So there are some problems with the mac vm and this will have to be
fixed (probably next week).

After I hope that we will get clean events from SDL









I need some more time, one or two vm changes and some people
testing this on a mac.







Tell us we will :)






I know, this is a bit late because we replace our text
components with rubric, but if this


is finished and working for "old" PluggableTextMorphs, I will do
the same for rubric.



Thanks thanks thanks.

I often frustrated when I see myself doing things more than twice
but this is a pattern. I decided long time ago that

if this is necessary to do intermediate actions to lower the stress
on the future actions, I'm ready to throw awy what

I did to get the ultimate goal reached.

















2015-08-08 14:57 GMT+02:00
Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com>:


if reintroduce
them means reintroduce them hardcoded as
before, then I���m complete against it and I
WILL NOT integrate such solution.��
I���m sorry for being so strong here, but
previous implementation was lame and we need
to get rid of them.��




Now, I understand people are used to use
those bindings and also some others (no idea
which ones because I never used them��� for me
ocompletion is good enough��� but those are
tastes). So I would be very happy to
integrate a generic way to define
keybindings and outputs (which is already
there, with keymapping, but I mean an editor
or something), and I would be very happy to
integrate a default configuration (which of
course, will include #ifTrue:/##ifFalse:)





Esteban















On 08 Aug 2015, at 12:45,
Peter Uhn��k <i.uhnak@gmail.com>

wrote:




I would also
appreciate if it was readded,
as I've been using it
regularly.



Peter




On
Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 12:21
PM, ThomasHeniart <heniart.thomas@gmail.com>
wrote:


I think
it could be nice to keep
this shortcut :)





On 08/08/2015
12:12, Franck
Warlouzet wrote:



Hi,



Yes it was not
on purpose. It
is not
implemented in
Rubric, but I
can do it if
there is a need
of it (which
seems to be the
case).



Franck




Date: Sat,
8 Aug 2015
12:09:22 +0200

From: i.uhnak@gmail.com

To: pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org

Subject:
[Pharo-dev]
ifTrue ifFalse
shortcuts



Hi,





was
removal of
ifTrue/ifFalse
shortcuts on
purpose, or by
accident?


(maybe
was caused by
switch to
Rubric?)




Peter