On Feb 5, 2012, at 3:28 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
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> proportional layouts need to let each view have a proportion (zero makes it fixed size) and splitters should be just another view that is added to a composite, following the horizontal/vertical nature of the layout manager.
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> From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Schwab,Wilhelm K [bschwab@anest.ufl.edu]
> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:25 PM
> To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] MVP
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> I'm still a little overwhelmed, but I see attention to layout; this has been a BIG stumbling block for me in my efforts to bring MVP to Pharo. I recommend using nested composite view/presenter pairs for most layout. First, it lends itself well to an eventual
view editor, and second, can be surprisingly easy to code directly.
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> Each composite view has a layout manager. Layouts include constrained table-like elements, but the real workhorses are proportional layouts, which can be set either horizontal or vertical. By nesting them, very complicate behavior can be achieved.
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> There, said "nesting," and that has been where I have fallen into trouble. Pharo/morphic layout works great for children of the top level, but after that, I can't get reliable results.
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> Sleep calls...
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> Bill
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> From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Schwab,Wilhelm K [bschwab@anest.ufl.edu]
> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 6:36 PM
> To: pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
> Subject: [Pharo-project] MVP
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> Hello all,
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> I have been to busy to read today, but I like seeing any discussion of MVP. I am **slowly** working on a framework for it, but would be glad to be beaten to it.
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> Default models are key; they must be replaceable, but (sub)triads should work "out of the box." Models can include value holders, value adapters, converters, and contexts, depending on how they are wired.
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> I have something of a start on the adapters and converters, which I can try to package and make available. If nothing else, they will have value in seeding discussion if not be directly usable. More to come.
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> Bill