You see this is several times that I gently ask if we can move on. 
And regularly we get the same. 

So I can also live pharo-dev. 
At the end of the day we cannot have the cake and eat it too. 

So you can consider that I���m an asshole. I���m probably that.
Now I���m super super fedup to have to jump over some thread. 
I quit newsgroups in the past because of that. I quit Pharo-users because of that. 

When I want to read about X Z Y and this is not related to Pharo then I google the Web. 

S. 


On 30 Jan 2020, at 12:05, Benoit St-Jean <bstjean@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Benoit St-Jean <bstjean@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo4pharo mailing-list announce
Date: 30 January 2020 at 12:05:38 CET
To: pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org


Wow! 

That post on Pharo Weekly ( https://pharoweekly.wordpress.com/2020/01/30/ann-pharo-4-pharo-mailing-list/ ) really sets a great welcoming ambiance for any newcomer interested by Pharo who'll read that or who'll stumble on it by accident while googling "Pharo+mailing+list" !

#Not #Fail #WorstAdvertisingEver

Please, take 30 seconds to remove that crap before too many people read it...

P.S. it's one thing to express yourself like that on a mailing list, it's another one to put it upfront on a blog...

On 2020-01-30 02:33, St��phane Ducasse wrote:
Hi

Tired of boring and dull discussions about the past?
Tired and bored about the fact that the discussions are not about Pharo but about X, Z, K?
Want to get in touch with other real pharo users?
Want to have positive and nice discussions about Pharo?

This mailing-list is for you


I created a new mailing-list for Pharo 4 Pharo. 
The idea of this new mailing-list is to exchange between Pharo users on Pharo. 

If you want to talk about the weather and other cool fishing practices or how other languages are super cool,
then you should use another mailing-list. 

You can consider that I���m
[ ]  an asshole
[ ]  an arrogant idiot
[ ]  other 
This is not my concern.

My concern is: can we respect Pharo and users of Pharo that want to share what they are doing 
and ask questions about their language?

If you join this mailing-list be warned that I (yes me the benevolent dictator of Pharo) will remove you from the mailing-list
when you get on my nerves. 

If you do not like it, do not like me, do not appreciate it, do not join! 

S. 

BTW they are plenty of newsgroups about Smalltalk and you can join there. 


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