Hi.

I just want to mention another interesting opportunity for mocking network.

In past we built system which retrieves information from various web services without documentation about data formats and protocols.

We created mock library which caches retrieved information from first calls and then in test we got network responses without internet requests. By demand we ran tests with empty cache to check that all services not change their protocols. It was really boost our productivity.

It will be nice to get such feature in Pharo.

2016-03-03 9:01 GMT+01:00 Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com>:

Look guys,

I know that you can start a super smart discussion about the approaches to test network-related stuff.

But my question was super simple. If I��m writing something that accesses github I can write a test for handling request limit error. And in ruby I can say: ��ok in this test when you get a request to https://github��/SomePathThatITest hive a response with this number and this headers��. And then I can test the result. If I cannot do this in Pharo, then I will not test it, it��s that easy.

Cheers.
Uko

> On 03 Mar 2016, at 03:53, Chris Muller <ma.chris.m@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I use a framework designed for testing network programs.�� Depending on
> the test, it launches 3-5 "player" copies of the image solely for
> participation in the tests.�� The controlling image runs the unit
> tests, which each send their dance of rpc messages to the players to
> make them run the tests in a controlled fashion.
>
> The failure tests involve setting a boolean flag in the server image
> that causes it to execute "Smalltalk quitPrimitive" from a place deep
> in the system -- i.e., at one place in mid disk-write, to exercise the
> recovery code.
>
> This approach to testing network programs is heavier-weight than a
> mock and doesn't integrate well with the SUnit browser.�� But it does
> provide me a comfortable context that assures me it really does work
> over the network.�� Back then, I was wanting to learn and practice my
> TCP socket programming anyway, so it was hard for me to allocate time
> to learning a mock which.. at the end of the day, I knew, would nag me
> to wonder whether my program would really work over the network for
> real.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 6:16 PM, Frank Shearar <frank.shearar@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Er. How do you reliably inject arbitrary network faults in your
>> localhost network again?
>>
>> frank
>>
>> On 2 March 2016 at 08:27, Chris Muller <asqueaker@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> A mock network will never test as thoroughly as locahost network..
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 6:32 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
>>>> HI, there is one thing in Ruby (on Rails) that I really like and it is a option to mock network. This means that when you run a test your network requests are handled by a mock object and you can tell it that for this URI it should give you this response. This is helpful if you don��t want to rely on a network availability or test certain corner cases.
>>>>
>>>> Is there anything like this in Pharo?
>>>>
>>>> Uko
>>>
>