Le 10/12/2012 16:14, dimitris chloupis a �crit :
> Thanks for helping me out
>
> pharo -v
>
> pharo: command not found

Ok. My mistake. This should be

./pharo -v

> ldd pharo
>
>      linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xf779f000)
>      libm.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0xf7755000)
>      libdl.so.2 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0xf7750000)
>      libpthread.so.0 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0xf7734000)
>      libc.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0xf758a000)
>      /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xf77a0000)

This means it's OK. Something else is causing problem.

In your Pharo main directory, can you try

./Pharo-1.4-one-click.sh

And, if this doesn't work,

ls -l Pharo-1.4-one-click.sh

> Yes my project is called "Ephestos" and yes I could still target
> Blender, though I am also considering focusing more on extending Pharo.
> If I get it to work that is , because I am certainly motivated but
> learning all these stuff is very time consuming so far. My goal is to
> keep adding new graphic , music and IDE tools to pharo. Blender
> integration is relatively easy since I am quite familiar with python. My
> ambition so far is to offer an interactive tutorial tool, flexible GUI
> designer and a painting application (basic funcionality at first)  in
> the next 1-2 years to pharo, together of course with the blender /
> python bridge. I am also interested in creating a pharo front end for
> super collider for audio synthesis and music composition. Thats tons of
> stuff, but I am not in any hurry if pharo can accomodate my needs I can
> invest even decades if that is what it takes. I just like to spend an
> hour per day for coding and I was tired working on small insignificant
> projects so I decided to beging a big one :D
>
> If you say that it works for you on ubuntu 12.10 64 then certainly
> something I am doing wrong here.

Ok. A good suggestion then is, for audio synthesis and music
composition, look at the work of Steven Travis Pope : he's done music
synthesis tools in Smalltalk for a very long time (I met him in Paris
around 1997/1998 and his tools were already impressive).

For the GUI builder, I'm not too keen on that personaly. A gui builder
is often a dumbing down of the underlying GUI toolkit, to be usable and
general enough, and this is particularly true of Morphic which is a lot
more advanced than Pharo shows it. In a way, the original Morphic has an
integrated GUI builder... and the code is still there in Pharo and the
GUI, but hidden.

Still, I believe Spec is probably looking for help for that GUI builder.
And, if I get to start it, I may propose some simpler Morphs which would
work wonder with a GUI builder.

Thierry

>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier@cea.fr>
> *To:* dimitris chloupis <thekilon@yahoo.co.uk>
> *Sent:* Monday, 10 December 2012, 16:08
> *Subject:* Re: [Pharo-project] Unable to run pharo on Ubuntu 12.10
>
> Le 10/12/2012 14:55, dimitris chloupis a �crit :
>  > no I was not aware that it could not be done, worked fine for Macos (I
>  > am mostly a mac developer which is what I use at home, I use pcs only at
>  > work)  so I assumed the same applied for Ubuntu
>
> I think that Pharo seems to have better integration on Mac OS; Linux has
> issues (but I do use Linux, 12.10 and 12.04 exclusively, and I use both
> Pharo 1.4 and 2.0)
>
>  > I installed the package , still its unable to run it. Getting the
> same error
>
> Strange. This is all I need on my system (or it seems to). Can you go
> into your Pharo1.4 directory, in Contents/Linux, and there, in a
> terminal, try to run the following two commands :
>
> pharo -v
>
> and
>
> ldd pharo.
>
>  > I used the second answer to this question as a guide to install the
>  > package -->
>  >
> http://askubuntu.com/questions/107230/what-happened-to-the-ia32-libs-package
>
> Yes, this should be enough.
>
> I'm looking with interest where you will end up with your Pharo +
> Blender project. Is that right ? Are you still looking at that ?
>
> Regards,
>
> Thierry
>
>  > "
>  >
>  >
>  > If you get that error, try:
>  >
>  > |sudo apt-get update
>  > |
>  >
>  > Then try it again:
>  >
>  > |sudo apt-get install ia32-libs"
>  > |
>  >
>  > I just did a fresh install of 12.04, that package is still available in
>  > the repositories. In fact, I got that error myself before I ran update.
>  > Afterwards, it worked fine.
>  >
>  >
>  > "
>  >
>  > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  > *From:* Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier@cea.fr
> <mailto:thierry.goubier@cea.fr>>
>  > *To:* Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
> <mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr>; dimitris chloupis
>  > <thekilon@yahoo.co.uk <mailto:thekilon@yahoo.co.uk>>
>  > *Sent:* Monday, 10 December 2012, 15:27
>  > *Subject:* Re: [Pharo-project] Unable to run pharo on Ubuntu 12.10
>  >
>  > Le 10/12/2012 14:22, dimitris chloupis a �crit :
>  >  > I try to double click the Pharo-1.4-one-click.sh , even after going to
>  >  > properties and enabling allow excuting file as programm does nothing.
>  >  > And running from terminal prints the following
>  >  >
>  >  > exloupis@ephestos:~/Downloads/Pharo-1.4-one-click.app$ sudo
>  >  > ./Pharo-1.4-one-click.sh
>  >  > ./Pharo-1.4-one-click.sh: line 26:
>  >  > /home/exloupis/Downloads/Pharo-1.4-one-click.app/Contents/Linux/pharo:
>  >  > Permission denied
>  >  > ./Pharo-1.4-one-click.sh: line 26: exec:
>  >  > /home/exloupis/Downloads/Pharo-1.4-one-click.app/Contents/Linux/pharo:
>  >  > cannot execute: Permission denied
>  >  >
>  >  > Any idea why ?
>  >
>  > Have you loaded the ia32-libs package ? Are you on 12.10 64bits ?
>  >
>  > Pharo is a 32bits application; it doesn't run as-is on a 64 bits linux
>  > install.
>  >
>  > Regards,
>  >
>  > Thierry
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