Indeed what I really want to know:<div>- why is it considered as failed ?</div><div>- what were the errors made ?</div><div>- if we re-start from scratch, what we should *not* do ?</div><div>- if we fork it, what should we trash / rewrite ?</div>

<div><br></div><div>It&#39;s sad because &quot;nullPointer&quot; must have gain a lot of experience doing this, even if he doesn&#39;t like the code he has written, bump on hard issues, ....</div><div><br></div><div>nullpointer, the code is important, sharing your experience is *far* more important. Please, do so.</div>

<div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br clear="all">Laurent Laffont<br><br><a href="http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/">http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href="http://magaloma.blogspot.com/">http://magaloma.blogspot.com/</a><br>


<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Torsten Bergmann <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:astares@gmx.de">astares@gmx.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">

I&#39;ve just noticed that &quot;nullPointer&quot; now recreated <a href="http://www.squeaksource.com/CLFramework" target="_blank">http://www.squeaksource.com/CLFramework</a> again<br>
and uploaded CLFramework-nullPointer.90.mcz<br>
<br>
This time the code has a BSD license. The page says &quot;Failed attempt of visual UI builder<br>
for Pharo-Polymorph. Abbandoned. Only works in Pharo 1.0&quot;<br>
<br>
>From my point of view:<br>
<br>
��1. This sounds very negative and I dont understand what lead to this decision.<br>
 �� ��Similar to the decision to delete the project on SqS midway.<br>
 �� ��Especially since the previews looked really really good.<br>
 �� ��Is it a time or other issue on nullpointer&#39;s side or did the community<br>
 �� ��fail in support...<br>
<br>
��2. This looks to me as if the project will stop now with 1.0 and is<br>
 �� ��not moved to 1.1. or 1.2<br>
<br>
��3. I dont understand why the license changed from MIT to BSD but<br>
 �� ��that does not allow us to include the now released version 90 or further<br>
 �� ��work in the MIT licensed pharo-dev.<br>
<br>
I expect a day in the life of Pharo where people will demand more support to build<br>
visual tools. So to create a UI Builder the community<br>
<br>
��- either has to start from scratch then<br>
��- or continue with the project as a fork based on an earlier version<br>
 �� (&quot;CLFramework-nullPointer.70.mcz&quot; was the last one released as MIT)<br>
<br>
Really sad.<br>
<br>
Bye<br>
T.<br>
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