exactly and most of us are aware of these tools and the fact that are very useful because��

a) we are registered in the moose mailing list
b) because you have posted a few demonstrations videos about their use here, in the moose mailing ��list and in tweeter.��

I am very excited that you push pharo development forward and can't wait to see what more surprises you have in store for us.��

My thread which I think it was blown out of proportions was just a request for clarifications and some criticism on the tool itself. I never demanded that the tool should changed just for my shake or I wont use it, nor I expect these changes to come fast or in same form as Workspace. As I said in that thread Pharo 4 is a long way to go till its release. I have no regrets about that thread, my criticism still stands and I think I have been fair and polite but also honest.��

You replied to my questions without making assumptions and jumping to conclusions about my character and my state of mind and I really appreciate that.��

As I state always and maybe I started to sound boring by now, documentation is the most important feature. Playground is an advanced tool and of course it needs some explaining to utilise properly . Those blog posts are definetly a good starting point.�� I am still studying them ��and I will be using Playground non stop from now on because I use always the latest Pharo 4 for my project Ephestos. I usually get the latest release every few days.��

Actually your reply put it in some thinking about the potential of using GT tools to refactor Python code which is the core goal of my project. Definetly some exciting potential there. Keep up the great work.��

On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi Thierry,

On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 12:03 AM, Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier@gmail.com> wrote:
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And now, to make integration easier, we pile more stuff on top of the existing, bound to be removed, infrastructure: Glamour, Rubric, etc... And both Glamour and Spec don't make it easy to solve Morphic bugs.

I value your ambition a lot :) But I also feel that it stresses the Rmod team, and it leaks over the community.

I believe there is a confusion here. GT and Glamour are not maintained by the RMoD team. GT is ��an external project and it is maintained in its separate repository. That is why it stresses RMoD less and it is a way of scaling.

Also, since more than one year I am working on fixing various Morphic problems, and I can tell you that GT provides a significant productivity boost in that specific area. In any case, you should also note that these tools are under development since several years (the overall project started 5 years ago) and they are being actively used since 2 years in Moose. I believe we never had that much focus on the tools before.

Cheers,
Doru

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