well, along with this slice I opened: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/15627

who ���fixes��� the glamour issue. but it needs to be integrated so it will take a couple of days more. 

hope with this at least the look of menus are normalised. 

after we need to work on removing old shortcuts and add them through keybindings, then we can have a coherent shortcut set (one step at a time).

Esteban 



On 28 May 2015, at 21:19, Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com> wrote:

(whoops accidentally sent that last post)

and since we are there: What happens with linux?

Esteban

Linux is the same as Windows.



On 28 May 2015, at 20:25, Franck Warlouzet <franck.warlouzet@hotmail.fr>
wrote:
To copy/paste it is ctrl, but to quit a window it is alt F4, to switch
between windows it is alt + tab ...
But there is also a meta key, the windows key.

This confuses the issue. :)  From Pharo's perspective, the windows-key
does not exist.  I really believe the windows-key should *not* be
considered a meta-key, and some call it the super-key.

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 2:23 AM, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@web.de> wrote:
Currently, on Windows, the keymapping framework knows only two modifiers
"ctrl" and "command" the windows key "alt" maps to "command"

2015-05-28 20:16 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com>:

I���m lost now.
Which one is the ���meta��� key in windows? Alt or Ctrl?

Esteban

Note that he said *currently* , not that it was correct.  Indeed it is
wrong per platform conventions.  Observe all the PharoShortcuts saying
for example...
    ^ $b command mac | $b ctrl win | $b ctrl unix

That is...
  Linux/Windows meta-key = Ctrl.
  OSX meta-key = Cmd

  Alt should remain Alt and be equivalent to Option on osx, but it
seems on Windows that somewhere low level the Alt key *becomes* a Cmd
key. This needs to be killed.



Hi,

I need win/linux users (and why not, other mac users than me) to test
this issue:

https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/15621

basically, it normalises all menu shortcut output��� in a long but clear
way (and compatible with the platform).

cheers,
Esteban

Thanks for doing this.  It might be a bit bumpy road but really needs
to be done.
Now my opinion is based on previously being a long term Windows Pharo
user, but right now I need to find a Windows machine to assist.
cheers -ben