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Using new VM but can't find any log files

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David Pennington
Sat, Aug 28, 2021 3:47 PM

Hi there. I have installed the new M1 VM that supposedly gives much better information into a log file. However, my image is still disappearing such that it now doesn’t last more than 12 hours before going. I have searched for these log files but I can’t find any. Can anyone help me in this as I am close the throwing this all into the bin if I can’t keep my simple web site going regularly. My clients are not happy, as you can imagine and telling me to just go with a Blogger blog! I don’t want to do that so can anyone help?
David

Hi there. I have installed the new M1 VM that supposedly gives much better information into a log file. However, my image is still disappearing such that it now doesn’t last more than 12 hours before going. I have searched for these log files but I can’t find any. Can anyone help me in this as I am close the throwing this all into the bin if I can’t keep my simple web site going regularly. My clients are not happy, as you can imagine and telling me to just go with a Blogger blog! I don’t want to do that so can anyone help? David
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Sven Van Caekenberghe
Sat, Aug 28, 2021 5:00 PM

David,

On 28 Aug 2021, at 17:47, David Pennington david@totallyobjects.com wrote:

Hi there. I have installed the new M1 VM that supposedly gives much better information into a log file. However, my image is still disappearing such that it now doesn’t last more than 12 hours before going. I have searched for these log files but I can’t find any. Can anyone help me in this as I am close the throwing this all into the bin if I can’t keep my simple web site going regularly. My clients are not happy, as you can imagine and telling me to just go with a Blogger blog! I don’t want to do that so can anyone help?
David

We are sorry that you have this problem. Many people have already interacted with you via various channels.

Multiple Pharo developers are working on this issue (https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues/9565) but right now there is no immediate solution.

One option would be to go back to Pharo 7 or 8 (it is normally easy to have the same code base for Pharo 7, 8 and 9), but then you probably need to move away from M1 hardware.

Another option would be to run your application under control of launchd (on macOS) os systemd (on Linux). These tools automatically restart your app when it goes down. This is something you need for proper production deployment anyway.

In any case we are working on it and will surely let you know if we make progress.

HTH,

Sven

David, > On 28 Aug 2021, at 17:47, David Pennington <david@totallyobjects.com> wrote: > > Hi there. I have installed the new M1 VM that supposedly gives much better information into a log file. However, my image is still disappearing such that it now doesn’t last more than 12 hours before going. I have searched for these log files but I can’t find any. Can anyone help me in this as I am close the throwing this all into the bin if I can’t keep my simple web site going regularly. My clients are not happy, as you can imagine and telling me to just go with a Blogger blog! I don’t want to do that so can anyone help? > David We are sorry that you have this problem. Many people have already interacted with you via various channels. Multiple Pharo developers are working on this issue (https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues/9565) but right now there is no immediate solution. One option would be to go back to Pharo 7 or 8 (it is normally easy to have the same code base for Pharo 7, 8 and 9), but then you probably need to move away from M1 hardware. Another option would be to run your application under control of launchd (on macOS) os systemd (on Linux). These tools automatically restart your app when it goes down. This is something you need for proper production deployment anyway. In any case we are working on it and will surely let you know if we make progress. HTH, Sven
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David Pennington
Sat, Aug 28, 2021 5:22 PM

Sven

Thanks for your response. I had the same problem on 8.0 and, in fact, had the same problem with VAST on Windows 10 and Windows 2012 server so I am not hopeful.  Running Linux is not an option for me although I could reconfigure my Windows 2012 Server as I have replaced that with an M1 MacMini.

For the time being, my client (or at least the club that I belong to, appreciate my efforts and are happy with as minimal HTML web site and a Blog but I got the MacMini hoping to solve this so I would like to see a solution.  I am enjoying Pharo and don’t want. To have to leave it.

David

On 28 Aug 2021, at 16:47, David Pennington david@totallyobjects.com wrote:

Hi there. I have installed the new M1 VM that supposedly gives much better information into a log file. However, my image is still disappearing such that it now doesn’t last more than 12 hours before going. I have searched for these log files but I can’t find any. Can anyone help me in this as I am close the throwing this all into the bin if I can’t keep my simple web site going regularly. My clients are not happy, as you can imagine and telling me to just go with a Blogger blog! I don’t want to do that so can anyone help?
David

Sven Thanks for your response. I had the same problem on 8.0 and, in fact, had the same problem with VAST on Windows 10 and Windows 2012 server so I am not hopeful. Running Linux is not an option for me although I could reconfigure my Windows 2012 Server as I have replaced that with an M1 MacMini. For the time being, my client (or at least the club that I belong to, appreciate my efforts and are happy with as minimal HTML web site and a Blog but I got the MacMini hoping to solve this so I would like to see a solution. I am enjoying Pharo and don’t want. To have to leave it. David > On 28 Aug 2021, at 16:47, David Pennington <david@totallyobjects.com> wrote: > > Hi there. I have installed the new M1 VM that supposedly gives much better information into a log file. However, my image is still disappearing such that it now doesn’t last more than 12 hours before going. I have searched for these log files but I can’t find any. Can anyone help me in this as I am close the throwing this all into the bin if I can’t keep my simple web site going regularly. My clients are not happy, as you can imagine and telling me to just go with a Blogger blog! I don’t want to do that so can anyone help? > David