Thanks Sanjay... I don't use v8. I'm heavily invested in Spec2 and, well, my apps won't run in v8 :) On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 11:15 AM Sanjay Minni <sm@planage.com> wrote: > Don't think it's there in v9. Check in v8 > > On Tue, 27 Apr, 2021, 7:50 pm Russ Whaley, <whaley.russ@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Can you send a screenshot of the plus button? I'm using v9 on MacOS and >> I don't see a class + button... >> >> On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 9:47 AM kmo <voxkmp@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Doing it by hand is fiddly and error-prone. I know - because that's the >>> way I >>> used to do it before I realised that the plus button at the top of the >>> browser bottom panel did it for me. (I had no idea that there was also a >>> menu option on the refactorings menu). I think you might find the button >>> to >>> be the better way - I did. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html >>> >> >> >> -- >> Russ Whaley >> whaley.russ@gmail.com >> > -- Russ Whaley whaley.russ@gmail.com

I've attached a screenshot. The button appears when you select the class definition tab in the browser. Press it and you get a dialog to enter a subclass name then the text <http://forum.world.st/file/t368903/subclassbutton.png> template for that subclass appears in the browser class definition tab. This is from Pharo 9 on Linux (this is an older version 9 - not the very latest) -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Ah, in my v9 version, I see a red circled exclamation point (hovering says 'Refactorings' - which has a menu for the +New subclass. Good to know! Thanks! On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 12:17 PM kmo <voxkmp@gmail.com> wrote: > I've attached a screenshot. The button appears when you select the class > definition tab in the browser. Press it and you get a dialog to enter a > subclass name then the text > <http://forum.world.st/file/t368903/subclassbutton.png> template for that > subclass appears in the browser class definition tab. > > This is from Pharo 9 on Linux (this is an older version 9 - not the very > latest) > > > > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html > -- Russ Whaley whaley.russ@gmail.com

This shows the browser button for a subclass on Pharo 9 on Linux (not the very latest Version 9 by the way). It only appears when you have the class definition tab selected. I hope this shows up - I posted it earlier but it just hasn't appeared in the list - so I'm posting it again. With my luck it will probably appear twice now. <http://forum.world.st/file/t368903/subclassbutton.png> -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

/ a red circled exclamation point (hovering says 'Refactorings' - which has a menu for the +New subclass./ That sounds completely horrible. Surely that's never going to remain in the official release. -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

It's been there as a refactoring for a while. Why a refactoring? Who knows... Esteban A. Maringolo On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 1:59 PM kmo <voxkmp@gmail.com> wrote: > / a red circled exclamation point (hovering says 'Refactorings' - which > has a > menu for the +New subclass./ > > That sounds completely horrible. Surely that's never going to remain in the > official release. > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html >

Please open issue so that your remarks do not get lost. > On 27 Apr 2021, at 17:15, Christopher Fuhrman <christopher.fuhrman@etsmtl.ca> wrote: > > One thing I find challenging when teaching Pharo to new students -- especially those accustomed to IDEs with files, which is pretty much all of them ;) -- is that there are sometimes menus (depending on the Pharo version) to add a new package, new class, new protocol, but not a new method, etc. > > For onboarding new users, I think it's important that these things be intuitive and consistent, especially since updating tutorials takes time. They are super important because inconsistencies become barriers to onboarding new people. My point here is not that a menu option necessarily exists, but that we have a consistent way to explain how to create things even when Pharo changes. Apple used to have 10 commandments for keyboard shortcuts, and I think a similar idea could apply to having consistency in these elements of Pharo. > > Here are some related perspectives: > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/48034993/creation-of-a-class-in-pharo-smalltalk <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/48034993/creation-of-a-class-in-pharo-smalltalk> > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/53374761/how-to-add-a-new-method-in-pharo <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/53374761/how-to-add-a-new-method-in-pharo> > > > On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 at 09:47, kmo <voxkmp@gmail.com <mailto:voxkmp@gmail.com>> wrote: > Doing it by hand is fiddly and error-prone. I know - because that's the way I > used to do it before I realised that the plus button at the top of the > browser bottom panel did it for me. (I had no idea that there was also a > menu option on the refactorings menu). I think you might find the button to > be the better way - I did. > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html <http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html> > > > -- > Christopher Fuhrman, P.Eng., PhD > Professeur au Département de génie logiciel et des technologies de l'information > ÉTS (École de technologie supérieure) > > http://profs.etsmtl.ca/cfuhrman <http://profs.etsmtl.ca/cfuhrman> > +1 514 396 8638 > L'ÉTS est une constituante de l'Université du Québec -------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Aurore Dalle FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France

I hadn't actually noticed the "+" sign but it was there in V7 and is there in V9 on Windows. On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 at 03:15, Sanjay Minni <sm@planage.com> wrote: > Don't think it's there in v9. Check in v8 > > On Tue, 27 Apr, 2021, 7:50 pm Russ Whaley, <whaley.russ@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Can you send a screenshot of the plus button? I'm using v9 on MacOS and >> I don't see a class + button... >> >> On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 9:47 AM kmo <voxkmp@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Doing it by hand is fiddly and error-prone. I know - because that's the >>> way I >>> used to do it before I realised that the plus button at the top of the >>> browser bottom panel did it for me. (I had no idea that there was also a >>> menu option on the refactorings menu). I think you might find the button >>> to >>> be the better way - I did. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html >>> >> >> >> -- >> Russ Whaley >> whaley.russ@gmail.com >> >