@Todd, @Russ, yes, with Gtk3 it's a bit harder than I expected.
Gtk3 has a main message loop gtk_main() which, as it is being used in the webview library that I chose, blocks Pharo completely while webview window is active. On Windows, the webview window in general works without engaging the main message loop, but windows implementation doesn't rely on Gtk3 but on Edge.
On Linux, I firstly tried to put this webview library into a separate thread (a worker with headless image), however in this kind of setup the callbacks from the library cannot reach Pharo main thread. I solved this by exposing two additional Gtk3 functions in webview library, gtk_events_pending() and gtk_main_iteration() which enabled the construction of main event loop in Pharo that I run on the Idle Process priority level so that it doesn't take 100% of the processor time, like this:
proc := [[ true ]
whileTrue: [
(wv ffiEventsPending = 1) ifTrue:
[wv ffiRunIteration].
Processor yield.
]] forkAt: Processor lowestPriority.
So I don't need to run the webview library in separate thread, which is a bit simpler, and the callbacks work as they should. Now I just have to create some signaling so that Pharo will know if the user closes the webview window, and check if two Pharo classes that I already have (WebView and WebViewCallback) will suffice for these additional complications.
If anybody has a better idea for main loop implementation, I'm opened to suggestions :-)
The webview library that I chose uses Cocoa on MacOS, so no Gtk3 there. I hope that it will not be too difficult and that the above "one thread approach" will be OK for MacOS, too. Gtk3 was quite challenging, I was also considering to drop whis webview library and use gtk-bindings for Pharo directly, however then I would not be consistent also for Edge and Cocoa (in using one "umbrella" library). As far as I know, the webview general intention is to use the native GUI technology as much as possible.
Best wishes,
Tomaz
I tried to run the commands in terminal in MacOS... it didn't even (nor did
I) understand 'go' so we were both stymied at step one (lol). I'll pick it
up again after the holidays and give it another try with my full attention.
Happy Holidays,
Russ
On Thu, Dec 23, 2021 at 1:06 PM tomazz.turk@gmail.com wrote:
@Todd, @Russ, yes, with Gtk3 it's a bit harder than I expected.
Gtk3 has a main message loop gtk_main() which, as it is being used in the webview
library https://github.com/webview/webview that I chose, blocks Pharo
completely while webview window is active. On Windows, the webview window
in general works without engaging the main message loop, but windows
implementation doesn't rely on Gtk3 but on Edge.
On Linux, I firstly tried to put this webview library into a separate
thread (a worker with headless image), however in this kind of setup the
callbacks from the library cannot reach Pharo main thread. I solved this by
exposing two additional Gtk3 functions in webview library,
gtk_events_pending() and gtk_main_iteration() which enabled the
construction of main event loop in Pharo that I run on the Idle Process
priority level so that it doesn't take 100% of the processor time, like
this:
proc := [[ true ]
whileTrue: [
(wv ffiEventsPending = 1) ifTrue:
[wv ffiRunIteration].
Processor yield.
]] forkAt: Processor lowestPriority.
So I don't need to run the webview library in separate thread, which is a
bit simpler, and the callbacks work as they should. Now I just have to
create some signaling so that Pharo will know if the user closes the
webview window, and check if two Pharo classes that I already have (WebView
and WebViewCallback) will suffice for these additional complications.
If anybody has a better idea for main loop implementation, I'm opened to
suggestions :-)
The webview library that I chose uses Cocoa on MacOS, so no Gtk3 there. I
hope that it will not be too difficult and that the above "one thread
approach" will be OK for MacOS, too. Gtk3 was quite challenging, I was also
considering to drop whis webview library and use gtk-bindings for Pharo
directly, however then I would not be consistent also for Edge and Cocoa
(in using one "umbrella" library). As far as I know, the webview general
intention is to use the native GUI technology as much as possible.
Best wishes,
Tomaz
--
Russ Whaley
whaley.russ@gmail.com
Short report on webview porting:
c++ -dynamiclib webview.cc -std=c++11 -framework WebKit -o
libwebview.dylib
After some more tests on Windows and Linux I'll pack all the libs on
GitHub and update the readme.
Happy holidays,
Tomaz
Dear all,
Pharo-Webview works on Windows 10 64-bit and Linux 64-bit (tested on
Ubuntu 20.04). The needed webview.so dynamic library is available within
the repository at https://github.com/eftomi/Pharo-Webview. On Linux use
headless VM.
There's also a webview.dylib for MacOS if someone wants to try it (built
on Monterey), however I wasn't successful on this platform, despite the
fact that I tried TFWorker and TFMainThreadRunner approaches, too. I'm
also not keen on Cocoa.
The library itself lacks a better support for webview create-destroy
mechanisms although it could be upgraded. I achieved my needed
functionality and unfortunatelly don't have time to continue. Maybe I'll
continue in next months, but according to my experiences so far it would
be better to choose a slightly heavier but cleaner Photino
(https://www.tryphotino.io/) or something else. Or maybe to work on pure
Pharo approach :-)
One of the interesting challenges is a double nature of Pharo -
interactive and "headless" mode - meaning that the application runs
without Pharo GUI. It'd be nice if both approaches would be possible.
The library that I used builds on the headless idea, where the main GUI
loop is supposed to be taken over by the webview, which is the main
reason for "create-destroy" challenge if you use it interactively. This
multiplied by USER32.DLL, Gtk3, and Cocoa ...
Best wishes,
Tomaz