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vinref@gmail.com

Tue, Aug 9, 2022 11:13 AM

Hi Norbert

Posting this here in pharo-users as I am not a member of pharo-dev.

I also emailed David Gorisek late last year regarding the license (for Dolphin Smalltalk) and this was his reply. He wrote that I needed only to mark the repo as a fork and attach the copyright notice:

David Gorisek <david.gorisek@....com>

12:35 AM (9 hours ago)

to me

Dear Vince,

OmniBase is most definitely not abandonware because it is actively being used, improved and even supported for paying customers. We also have a version for D7 but since OmniBase is used as a DB repository for STS we don't use Github. In my company we use a central STS repository which is accessible over HTTPS and we keep all our code there so I haven't had time to try Github yet.

There are many versions and forks of OmniBase circling around because many people have done re-porting on their own for whatever reasons but these ports were not approved and are not supported by us. So, if you want to place your fork on Github you just need to indicate that it is a fork and that the original code is Copyright (c) by David Gorisek and then write what changes you made in your fork.

Thank yout and best regards,

David Gorisek
E-RACUNI d.o.o.
Maribor, Slovenia

Vince

Hi Norbert Posting this here in pharo-users as I am not a member of pharo-dev. I also emailed David Gorisek late last year regarding the license (for Dolphin Smalltalk) and this was his reply. He wrote that I needed only to mark the repo as a fork and attach the copyright notice: > David Gorisek <david.gorisek@....com> \ > \ > 12:35 AM (9 hours ago) \ > \ > to me \ > \ > Dear Vince, \ > \ > OmniBase is most definitely not abandonware because it is actively being used, improved and even supported for paying customers. We also have a version for D7 but since OmniBase is used as a DB repository for STS we don't use Github. In my company we use a central STS repository which is accessible over HTTPS and we keep all our code there so I haven't had time to try Github yet. \ > \ > There are many versions and forks of OmniBase circling around because many people have done re-porting on their own for whatever reasons but these ports were not approved and are not supported by us. So, if you want to place your fork on Github you just need to indicate that it is a fork and that the original code is Copyright (c) by David Gorisek and then write what changes you made in your fork. \ > \ > Thank yout and best regards, \ > \ > David Gorisek \ > E-RACUNI d.o.o. \ > Maribor, Slovenia Vince

YC

Yanni Chiu

Tue, Aug 9, 2022 2:56 PM

Vince,

Thanks for this clarification. For me it means I can use my fork for the
short term. (I can walk to the exit instead of run). Since the license is
clearly not MIT, the rug can be pull at whim, so this code can’t be a long
term solution.

Yanni

On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 7:13 AM vinref@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Norbert

Posting this here in pharo-users as I am not a member of pharo-dev.

I also emailed David Gorisek late last year regarding the license (for
Dolphin Smalltalk) and this was his reply. He wrote that I needed only to
mark the repo as a fork and attach the copyright notice:

David Gorisek <david.gorisek@....com>

12:35 AM (9 hours ago)

to me

Dear Vince,

OmniBase is most definitely not abandonware because it is actively being
used, improved and even supported for paying customers. We also have a
version for D7 but since OmniBase is used as a DB repository for STS we
don't use Github. In my company we use a central STS repository which is
accessible over HTTPS and we keep all our code there so I haven't had time
to try Github yet.

There are many versions and forks of OmniBase circling around because many
people have done re-porting on their own for whatever reasons but these
ports were not approved and are not supported by us. So, if you want to
place your fork on Github you just need to indicate that it is a fork and
that the original code is Copyright (c) by David Gorisek and then write
what changes you made in your fork.

Thank yout and best regards,

David Gorisek
E-RACUNI d.o.o.
Maribor, Slovenia

Vince

Vince, Thanks for this clarification. For me it means I can use my fork for the short term. (I can walk to the exit instead of run). Since the license is clearly not MIT, the rug can be pull at whim, so this code can’t be a long term solution. Yanni On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 7:13 AM <vinref@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Norbert > > Posting this here in pharo-users as I am not a member of pharo-dev. > > I also emailed David Gorisek late last year regarding the license (for > Dolphin Smalltalk) and this was his reply. He wrote that I needed only to > mark the repo as a fork and attach the copyright notice: > > > David Gorisek <david.gorisek@....com> > > 12:35 AM (9 hours ago) > > to me > > Dear Vince, > > OmniBase is most definitely not abandonware because it is actively being > used, improved and even supported for paying customers. We also have a > version for D7 but since OmniBase is used as a DB repository for STS we > don't use Github. In my company we use a central STS repository which is > accessible over HTTPS and we keep all our code there so I haven't had time > to try Github yet. > > There are many versions and forks of OmniBase circling around because many > people have done re-porting on their own for whatever reasons but these > ports were not approved and are not supported by us. So, if you want to > place your fork on Github you just need to indicate that it is a fork and > that the original code is Copyright (c) by David Gorisek and then write > what changes you made in your fork. > > Thank yout and best regards, > > David Gorisek > E-RACUNI d.o.o. > Maribor, Slovenia > > > Vince >

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Norbert Hartl

Tue, Aug 9, 2022 2:59 PM

Am 09.08.2022 um 16:56 schrieb Yanni Chiu yannix7db@gmail.com:

Vince,

Thanks for this clarification. For me it means I can use my fork for the short term. (I can walk to the exit instead of run). Since the license is clearly not MIT, the rug can be pull at whim, so this code can’t be a long term solution.

Yes, that's what I wrote in discord to you. Sorry for making you panicking ;)

Norbert

Yanni

On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 7:13 AM <vinref@gmail.com mailto:vinref@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Norbert

Posting this here in pharo-users as I am not a member of pharo-dev.

I also emailed David Gorisek late last year regarding the license (for Dolphin Smalltalk) and this was his reply. He wrote that I needed only to mark the repo as a fork and attach the copyright notice:

David Gorisek <david.gorisek@....com>

12:35 AM (9 hours ago)

to me

Dear Vince,

OmniBase is most definitely not abandonware because it is actively being used, improved and even supported for paying customers. We also have a version for D7 but since OmniBase is used as a DB repository for STS we don't use Github. In my company we use a central STS repository which is accessible over HTTPS and we keep all our code there so I haven't had time to try Github yet.

There are many versions and forks of OmniBase circling around because many people have done re-porting on their own for whatever reasons but these ports were not approved and are not supported by us. So, if you want to place your fork on Github you just need to indicate that it is a fork and that the original code is Copyright (c) by David Gorisek and then write what changes you made in your fork.

Thank yout and best regards,

David Gorisek
E-RACUNI d.o.o.
Maribor, Slovenia

Vince

> Am 09.08.2022 um 16:56 schrieb Yanni Chiu <yannix7db@gmail.com>: > > Vince, > > Thanks for this clarification. For me it means I can use my fork for the short term. (I can walk to the exit instead of run). Since the license is clearly not MIT, the rug can be pull at whim, so this code can’t be a long term solution. > Yes, that's what I wrote in discord to you. Sorry for making you panicking ;) Norbert > Yanni > > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 7:13 AM <vinref@gmail.com <mailto:vinref@gmail.com>> wrote: > Hi Norbert > > Posting this here in pharo-users as I am not a member of pharo-dev. > > I also emailed David Gorisek late last year regarding the license (for Dolphin Smalltalk) and this was his reply. He wrote that I needed only to mark the repo as a fork and attach the copyright notice: > > > > David Gorisek <david.gorisek@....com> > > 12:35 AM (9 hours ago) > > to me > > Dear Vince, > > OmniBase is most definitely not abandonware because it is actively being used, improved and even supported for paying customers. We also have a version for D7 but since OmniBase is used as a DB repository for STS we don't use Github. In my company we use a central STS repository which is accessible over HTTPS and we keep all our code there so I haven't had time to try Github yet. > > There are many versions and forks of OmniBase circling around because many people have done re-porting on their own for whatever reasons but these ports were not approved and are not supported by us. So, if you want to place your fork on Github you just need to indicate that it is a fork and that the original code is Copyright (c) by David Gorisek and then write what changes you made in your fork. > > Thank yout and best regards, > > David Gorisek > E-RACUNI d.o.o. > Maribor, Slovenia > > > > Vince >

YC

Yanni Chiu

Tue, Aug 9, 2022 3:13 PM

You did say to get a fork, but it wasn’t clear whether it was legit to use
it. I’ll probably just update the license, and eventually remove the fork.

On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 10:59 AM Norbert Hartl norbert@hartl.name wrote:

Am 09.08.2022 um 16:56 schrieb Yanni Chiu yannix7db@gmail.com:

Vince,

Thanks for this clarification. For me it means I can use my fork for the
short term. (I can walk to the exit instead of run). Since the license is
clearly not MIT, the rug can be pull at whim, so this code can’t be a long
term solution.

Yes, that's what I wrote in discord to you. Sorry for making you panicking
;)

Norbert

Yanni

On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 7:13 AM vinref@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Norbert

Posting this here in pharo-users as I am not a member of pharo-dev.

I also emailed David Gorisek late last year regarding the license (for
Dolphin Smalltalk) and this was his reply. He wrote that I needed only to
mark the repo as a fork and attach the copyright notice:

David Gorisek <david.gorisek@....com>

12:35 AM (9 hours ago)

to me

Dear Vince,

OmniBase is most definitely not abandonware because it is actively being
used, improved and even supported for paying customers. We also have a
version for D7 but since OmniBase is used as a DB repository for STS we
don't use Github. In my company we use a central STS repository which is
accessible over HTTPS and we keep all our code there so I haven't had time
to try Github yet.

There are many versions and forks of OmniBase circling around because
many people have done re-porting on their own for whatever reasons but
these ports were not approved and are not supported by us. So, if you want
to place your fork on Github you just need to indicate that it is a fork
and that the original code is Copyright (c) by David Gorisek and then write
what changes you made in your fork.

Thank yout and best regards,

David Gorisek
E-RACUNI d.o.o.
Maribor, Slovenia

Vince

You did say to get a fork, but it wasn’t clear whether it was legit to use it. I’ll probably just update the license, and eventually remove the fork. On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 10:59 AM Norbert Hartl <norbert@hartl.name> wrote: > > > Am 09.08.2022 um 16:56 schrieb Yanni Chiu <yannix7db@gmail.com>: > > Vince, > > Thanks for this clarification. For me it means I can use my fork for the > short term. (I can walk to the exit instead of run). Since the license is > clearly not MIT, the rug can be pull at whim, so this code can’t be a long > term solution. > > Yes, that's what I wrote in discord to you. Sorry for making you panicking > ;) > > Norbert > > Yanni > > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 7:13 AM <vinref@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Norbert >> >> Posting this here in pharo-users as I am not a member of pharo-dev. >> >> I also emailed David Gorisek late last year regarding the license (for >> Dolphin Smalltalk) and this was his reply. He wrote that I needed only to >> mark the repo as a fork and attach the copyright notice: >> >> >> David Gorisek <david.gorisek@....com> >> >> 12:35 AM (9 hours ago) >> >> to me >> >> Dear Vince, >> >> OmniBase is most definitely not abandonware because it is actively being >> used, improved and even supported for paying customers. We also have a >> version for D7 but since OmniBase is used as a DB repository for STS we >> don't use Github. In my company we use a central STS repository which is >> accessible over HTTPS and we keep all our code there so I haven't had time >> to try Github yet. >> >> There are many versions and forks of OmniBase circling around because >> many people have done re-porting on their own for whatever reasons but >> these ports were not approved and are not supported by us. So, if you want >> to place your fork on Github you just need to indicate that it is a fork >> and that the original code is Copyright (c) by David Gorisek and then write >> what changes you made in your fork. >> >> Thank yout and best regards, >> >> David Gorisek >> E-RACUNI d.o.o. >> Maribor, Slovenia >> >> >> Vince >> > >

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