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Recent Pharo's seem to lose first keystroke when you swap to them to paste?

TM
Tim Mackinnon
Sat, Jun 1, 2024 5:14 PM

Hi Russ (and others) - there is an update in the ticket, it looks like the meta key's state isn't been properly tracked due to how cocoa (macos) propogates events to the sdlc library (or something like that). Pablo has spotted something he thinks might fix it - so fingers crossed on this.

And thanks for everyone piping up - it makes the system better.

Tim

see. https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues/16700

On Sat, 1 Jun 2024, at 3:45 PM, Russ Whaley wrote:

I've paid specific attention to my pastes when an (outside of Pharo) window is active... such as a web browser and I'm copying a URL, etc.  I find I must select the Pharo window, THEN select the widget for the paste.  If I just select the widget, it appears to be giving the window focus only, and if I then selecting the widget, the paste works fine.

Hope this helps.
Russ

On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 9:03 AM Tim Mackinnon tim@testit.works wrote:

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It's very stange - and it seems many people experience it from comments on the submitted but - although it seems an OSX problem (so far) and one that has happened possibly in P9 or P10.

Perhaps we can narrow it down enough to figure out the cause (and it occurs to me to see if GT has the same issue).

Tim

On Wed, 29 May 2024, at 12:29 PM, stephane ducasse wrote:

Tx
I did not know that pasting twice was working…
How a strange bug.

S

On 27 May 2024, at 22:32, Tim Mackinnon tim@testit.works wrote:

I've submitted the issue https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues/16700 and noted other comments

On Mon, 27 May 2024, at 5:02 PM, Tim Mackinnon wrote:

It would be handy to know if it’s just macOS - but I’ll write up an issue this evening.

Thanks for confirming.

Tim

On 27 May 2024, at 16:01, Koen De Hondt koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st wrote:
I have suffered from copy & paste issues like this for a long time, in P11 and P12.
I always have trouble with copying text from an image. I am already used to pressing Command-C twice 😄

I use a M2 Mac with MacOS 14.5, but it happened on earlier versions of MacOS as well.

Koen

On 27 May 2024, at 15:48, Noury Bouraqadi bouraqadi@gmail.com wrote:

Same bug on P11 with MacOS.

On May 27 2024, at 3:44 pm, Tim Mackinnon tim@testit.works wrote:

For a while I've noticed that every time I try and copy some text from a web browser or email and then paste it into pharo the first time it fails - and then thinking I didn't copy, I try it again and then realise that I have to paste twice - as the first one doesn't work.

This didn't seem to do this in Pharo 9 (maybe 10) but its definitely the case in Pharo 11 and Pharo 12. This is on OSX (14.x) so I'm wondering if the same occurs in Windows or Linux or if its just my laptop? Its quite annoying and I'm wondering if it might be a side effect from the gradual UI changes in Pharo?

I've looked in the issues tracker - but its a tricky thing to search for - and so I wanted to canvas experience and then will report it.

Tim

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Russ Whaley
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Hi Russ (and others) - there is an update in the ticket, it looks like the meta key's state isn't been properly tracked due to how cocoa (macos) propogates events to the sdlc library (or something like that). Pablo has spotted something he thinks might fix it - so fingers crossed on this. And thanks for everyone piping up - it makes the system better. Tim see. https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues/16700 On Sat, 1 Jun 2024, at 3:45 PM, Russ Whaley wrote: > I've paid specific attention to my pastes when an (outside of Pharo) window is active... such as a web browser and I'm copying a URL, etc. I find I must select the Pharo window, THEN select the widget for the paste. If I just select the widget, it appears to be giving the window focus only, and if I then selecting the widget, the paste works fine. > > Hope this helps. > Russ > > On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 9:03 AM Tim Mackinnon <tim@testit.works> wrote: >> __ >> It's very stange - and it seems many people experience it from comments on the submitted but - although it seems an OSX problem (so far) and one that has happened possibly in P9 or P10. >> >> Perhaps we can narrow it down enough to figure out the cause (and it occurs to me to see if GT has the same issue). >> >> Tim >> >> On Wed, 29 May 2024, at 12:29 PM, stephane ducasse wrote: >>> Tx >>> I did not know that pasting twice was working… >>> How a strange bug. >>> >>> S >>> >>>> On 27 May 2024, at 22:32, Tim Mackinnon <tim@testit.works> wrote: >>>> >>>> I've submitted the issue https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues/16700 and noted other comments >>>> >>>> On Mon, 27 May 2024, at 5:02 PM, Tim Mackinnon wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It would be handy to know if it’s just macOS - but I’ll write up an issue this evening. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for confirming. >>>>> >>>>> Tim >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 27 May 2024, at 16:01, Koen De Hondt <koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st> wrote: >>>>>> I have suffered from copy & paste issues like this for a long time, in P11 and P12. >>>>>> I always have trouble with copying text from an image. I am already used to pressing Command-C twice 😄 >>>>>> >>>>>> I use a M2 Mac with MacOS 14.5, but it happened on earlier versions of MacOS as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> Koen >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 27 May 2024, at 15:48, Noury Bouraqadi <bouraqadi@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Same bug on P11 with MacOS. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 27 2024, at 3:44 pm, Tim Mackinnon <tim@testit.works> wrote: >>>>>>>> For a while I've noticed that every time I try and copy some text from a web browser or email and then paste it into pharo the first time it fails - and then thinking I didn't copy, I try it again and then realise that I have to paste twice - as the first one doesn't work. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This didn't seem to do this in Pharo 9 (maybe 10) but its definitely the case in Pharo 11 and Pharo 12. This is on OSX (14.x) so I'm wondering if the same occurs in Windows or Linux or if its just my laptop? Its quite annoying and I'm wondering if it might be a side effect from the gradual UI changes in Pharo? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've looked in the issues tracker - but its a tricky thing to search for - and so I wanted to canvas experience and then will report it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tim >>> >>> Stéphane Ducasse >>> http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr >>> 06 30 93 66 73 >>> >>> "If you knew today was your last day on earth, what would you do differently? ....ESPECIALLY if, by doing something different, today might not be your last day on earth.” Calvin & Hobbes >>> >>> >> > > > -- > Russ Whaley > whaley.russ@gmail.com