[Pharo-users] Interesting Pharo Launcher feedback

Tim Mackinnon tim at testit.works
Tue Jun 26 07:26:56 EDT 2018


Just as a small visualisation of below - I hacked the titles just to see (and maybe the project metaphor isn’t a bad one?)



> On 26 Jun 2018, at 09:13, Tim Mackinnon <tim at testit.works> wrote:
> 
> As I mentioned - the user in question was quite complimentary, just confused on first launch.
> 
> Equally we don’t want to impact power users, and ultimately we want to encourage everyone to try newer images to help with improvements. 
> 
> I honestly think that some slightly improved terminology and a bit of guidance to get your first image (eg picking the correct one) is all it takes.
> 
> Once you’ve groked it - you are off. We just want that first experience to be pleasant.
> 
> I personally like to see the list of images and understand how many builds have been made as it’s comforting to see the progress and be encouraged to join in.
> 
> I as going to propose a simple change to the name on the lists like:
> 
> “Templates” -> “Image Templates” or maybe even “Project Templates”
> 
> “Images” -> “Downloaded Images” or maybe “Created Projects”
> 
> (While we are familiar with the term image, maybe it’s an implementation detail - eclipse and IntelliJ create projects, and we aren’t so different)
> 
> We could also as Cyril suggests, have a little welcome window with some text and a picture.
> 
> Both really simple to do and probably enough to get people started. After all, our audience is reasonable technical so we shouldn’t need to dumb It down too much.
> 
> I’m also conscious about here is a lot of Pharo 7 work to do as well.
> 
> Tim
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 26 Jun 2018, at 08:09, Christophe Demarey <christophe.demarey at inria.fr <mailto:christophe.demarey at inria.fr>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>>> Le 26 juin 2018 à 03:00, Ben Coman <btc at openinworld.com <mailto:btc at openinworld.com>> a écrit :
>>> 
>>> On 26 June 2018 at 06:17, Tim Mackinnon <tim at testit.works <mailto:tim at testit.works>> wrote:
>>> Hi everyone - at tonights month UK Smalltalk Meetup, we got some nice compliments on the state of Pharo (the participants - all ex small talkers - although ex in so much as they fondly remembered it and wanted to use it for something relevant now because they enjoyed it in the past).
>>> 
>>> Anyway, one interesting comment stuck out - he had downloaded Pharo (having used Visual Age 15+ years ago) and was a bit overwhelmed with what laugher presented to him. He didn’t hate it - but was initially a bit lost as to what it all meant and how to start… he figured it out, but I thought the feedback was interesting and made me think that maybe we need some form of intro wizard to get people off to a quick start but leave them confident enough that they might come back and try a Pharo 7 or Moose etc.
>>> 
>>> I encouraged him to post something on here, but thoughtI would note it (as it seems quite easy to fix) as an idea while it was fresh in my mind.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A welcome tutorial is a good idea.  And btw, the sort of idea that only comes from broader use of PharoLauncher.
>> 
>> Thanks for the feedback.
>> We also got this feedback from students. We know we have to improve the UI by simplifying it.
>> Our idea was to only provide a window with a toolbar and the list of images as the main Pharo Launhcer window.
>> On this windows, clicking on the + button will open a « wizard » like the one for creating repositories in Iceberg. There you could choose to create an image from « featured images » or ci, etc.
>> 
>> It would lower a lot the cognitive charge of the current window.
>> We just need time to implement it.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Christophe
>> 
>> 

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